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  1. #76

    Re: Suggs on Track for Return This Season



    I forgot about Wally Williams, got me there. He is 1 in a thousand...hundreds whatever. Only took all 20 of you all day long to find ONE guy. Still like my odds....a whole lot.

    Would like to see a link for the random hockey player that was mentioned in 4.5 months. Prove it.




  2. #77

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJoeFlaccoShow View Post
    Right because we know how accurate you are with your statements we will just take your word for it.
    Dude...I think you're going to have to take your lumps with this one. See the post immediately above yours, and then the references to Beckham and the hockey player.

    Who knows, you may be right that Suggs doesn't come back before the play-offs...but to reject the notion as a medical impossibility seems to be erroneous.

    Keep in mind that doctors are covering their asses when they give recovery time estimates for athletes. I wouldn't want to encourage a player to come back faster than is widely accepted...even if he feels like he is healthy enough to play. The last thing I'd want to do is say, "yeah, if you fel like you're good to go, then go," only to have the player re-injure himself and turn around and say, but you told me it was OK to go back.

    That doesn't mean that all people are subject to the same timetable for recovery. If he's already running and jumping and stretching, then the doctor likely approved the accelerated timetable. Personally, I think we'll see him Nov. 4 @ Cleveland as a situational pass rusher. He'll be fully starting by the first Pitt game. Those are my opinions and I acknowledge that they are based on nothing other than my gut feeling which means about as much as all the other conjecture in this thread.




  3. #78

    Re: Suggs on Track for Return This Season

    Quote Originally Posted by TheJoeFlaccoShow View Post
    I forgot about Wally Williams, got me there. He is 1 in a thousand...hundreds whatever. Still like my odds....a whole lot.

    Would like to see a link for the random hockey player that was mentioned in 4.5 months. Prove it.
    You like your odds, I like Suggs odds, and we all should be pulling for him. At least you can say you hope you are wrong.....that would be a team move IMO.
    Way Down South in New Orleans




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    Re: Suggs on Track for Return This Season

    You just never know with injuries. For example, my sister-in-law stubbed her toe in 2004, and hasn't worked since... Bc




  5. #80

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOLARavenFAN View Post
    You like your odds, I like Suggs odds, and we all should be pulling for him. At least you can say you hope you are wrong.....that would be a team move IMO.
    Try reading the thread instead of jumping in because I said those exact words in a previous post from about 30 min ago.




  6. #81

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodandfast View Post
    Dude...I think you're going to have to take your lumps with this one. See the post immediately above yours, and then the references to Beckham and the hockey player.

    Who knows, you may be right that Suggs doesn't come back before the play-offs...but to reject the notion as a medical impossibility seems to be erroneous.

    Keep in mind that doctors are covering their asses when they give recovery time estimates for athletes. I wouldn't want to encourage a player to come back faster than is widely accepted...even if he feels like he is healthy enough to play. The last thing I'd want to do is say, "yeah, if you fel like you're good to go, then go," only to have the player re-injure himself and turn around and say, but you told me it was OK to go back.

    That doesn't mean that all people are subject to the same timetable for recovery. If he's already running and jumping and stretching, then the doctor likely approved the accelerated timetable. Personally, I think we'll see him Nov. 4 @ Cleveland as a situational pass rusher. He'll be fully starting by the first Pitt game. Those are my opinions and I acknowledge that they are based on nothing other than my gut feeling which means about as much as all the other conjecture in this thread.
    For you and everyone else too lazy to read the entire thread...

    Of the 31 players who sustained an Achilles tendon rupture, 21 (64%) returned to play in the NFL at an average of 11 months after injury. In the three seasons following their return, those 21 players saw significant decreases in games played and power ratings compared to the three seasons preceding the injury.

    The percentage of players returning to play at the NFL level is consistent with a meta-analysis performed by Bhandari4 in 2002. The authors reported return to function rates of 63% for patients treated nonoperatively and 71% for those treated operatively. If we assume that all the NFL players were treated operatively, as would be the standard for young athletes, the return to play rate of 64% is slightly lower than the 71% reported in the meta-analysis. This difference could be attributed to the excessive demands placed on the operatively repaired Achilles tendon in NFL players combined with a body size, strength, and explosiveness that would further increase these demands.

    The length of time to allow full activity after Achilles tendon repair is generally thought to be four to six months.4-6 The 11 months needed to return to play as a professional football player seems considerably longer. However, there is a major difference between allowing full activity and returning to play in the NFL. Even when the typical patient is allowed to participate in full activity, it does not mean that he or she is adequately rehabilitated to perform at maximal efforts. Studies to determine maximal improvement after surgical treatment are lacking in the orthopedic literature.

    http://lowerextremityreview.com/arti...tendon-rupture
    6.5 months would be a minor miracle, especially with a pass rusher who has to push off on that leg to create pressure. How many soccer or hockey players need to drive through a 350lb tackle?




  7. #82

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    Quote Originally Posted by BcRaven View Post
    You just never know with injuries. For example, my sister-in-law stubbed her toe in 2004, and hasn't worked since... Bc
    lol




  8. #83

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJoeFlaccoShow View Post
    For you and everyone else too lazy to read the entire thread...



    6.5 months would be a minor miracle, especially with a pass rusher who has to push off on that leg to create pressure. How many soccer or hockey players need to drive through a 350lb tackle?
    Whatever.....you would never be on the Ravens. Obviously you are not Harbaugh's type of guy, or even Joe's really......its all about your opinion and being right, when we are here for something else.
    Way Down South in New Orleans




  9. #84

    Re: Suggs on Track for Return This Season

    Quote Originally Posted by TheJoeFlaccoShow View Post
    For you and everyone else too lazy to read the entire thread...



    6.5 months would be a minor miracle, especially with a pass rusher who has to push off on that leg to create pressure. How many soccer or hockey players need to drive through a 350lb tackle?
    Reading comprehension test. In the context of the paragraph you quoted, what does the following line mean?

    "Studies to determine maximal improvement after surgical treatment are lacking in the orthopedic literature."

    Answer? There has not been enough study done to suggest a firm timetable for a return to "maximal effort."

    Effect on your point? There is no accepted timetable for a return to maximal effort, thus, Suggs could very well hit that six month point and he capable of "maximal effort."




  10. #85

    Re: Suggs on Track for Return This Season

    Quote Originally Posted by NOLARavenFAN View Post
    Whatever.....you would never be on the Ravens. Obviously you are not Harbaugh's type of guy, or even Joe's really......its all about your opinion and being right, when we are here for something else.
    When you have the balls to stand up to 40 different people firing shots at you all day long come talk to me.

    I stand by what I have read, and I have the facts to back it up in a shitload of cases. Links posted. Statistics for FOOTBALL players. They have Wally Williams, and a hope and a prayer.

    $50 booked people, easy money come and get it. Why the hesitation?

    All talk.




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    Moving the goal posts I see? First it was professional athlete...now it is a football player...got it.

    I'm just curious, but do you ever actually look at the stuff you post on here?

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  12. #87

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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Moving the goal posts I see? First it was professional athlete...now it is a football player...got it.

    I'm just curious, but do you ever actually look at the stuff you post on here?

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    Mods, can we get a shut down and a reboot on this thread? It's worth talking about but this has gotten a little out of hand and it's only spiraling further down the drain.




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    Re: Suggs on Track for Return This Season

    Quote Originally Posted by Bhcforlife View Post
    I will say is that I have been at all three games too and Suggs was not limping whatsoever at any of them. There is a clear difference in being able to walk without a limp and being able to play in an NFL game, but this guy who I've never heard of claiming he was limping is 100% incorrect.
    My hubby worked the security detail for the Haloti Ngata fundraiser event last night. He had the pleasure of escorting each Ravens player from their vehicle to the VIP room as they arrived. One of them was Suggs and he said you would never know Suggs was ever injured by the way he walks. On the way in, some fans were screaming "Suggs, when are you coming back, we need you" and Suggs stated "Soon...very,very soon". So he does not walk with a limp at all and he assured the fans he WAS coming back very soon... straight from the horse's mouth.




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    Re: Suggs on Track for Return This Season

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens27Girl View Post
    My hubby worked the security detail for the Haloti Ngata fundraiser event last night. He had the pleasure of escorting each Ravens player from their vehicle to the VIP room as they arrived. One of them was Suggs and he said you would never know Suggs was ever injured by the way he walks. On the way in, some fans were screaming "Suggs, when are you coming back, we need you" and Suggs stated "Soon...very,very soon". So he does not walk with a limp at all and he assured the fans he WAS coming back very soon... straight from the horse's mouth.
    Thanks for that info! Great news.




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    Even if Suggs isn't physically 100%, the football instincts and knowledge he'll bring will be a huge asset for at least being able to contain plays, I think.




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