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    Re: Ten Things I Saw On Tape



    Did anyone catch the commentator (can't remember if it was Dierdork ) say that they ran into Ray Lewis before the game and he said (paraphrasing) "Pees is still figuring out what schemes he wants to run". Then they talked about Ed and Ray having input.

    I think they'd rather go down by being too aggressive than play deep zone and get picked apart underneath, so we'll see what happens on Sunday night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rxdoxx View Post
    Harbs (he of no direct game planning) did the best he could with a time-out to chew them out, but it wasn't his responsibility to make adjustments (It is his responsibility to see that his coaches learn to do it in the future and not let that second half situation exist again).
    Rxdoxx.. No offense, but I gotta strongly disagree that Harbs isnt responsible for game adjustments. He should be able to see whats going and tell Cam or Dean what he wants. Especially when its a trend like all the 3 and outs in the 3Q. He seemed annoyed at some of the playcalling in his postgame speech, but it was too damn late. He should have said something during the game to change the results. Sure you can talk to Cam or Dean about something you saw after reviewing the game film, and tell them to make a mental note of it, but every game is different. If you dont adapt during the game, you are gonna fricking lose. This is my main criticism of hiring a ST coach. Does he have the expertise to see whats going in the game, and know exactly what to do to remedy the isses the offense or defense are having? I dont know, but I would say that a head coach that was once a DC or OC would have more experience in knowing how to attack a man to man press coverage. Sure even if he was a DC (Harbs only had one year as secondary coach), he would know the shortcomings of that defense. Sorry, but Harbs runs the ship. He needs to get involved in every aspect including making game adjustments. Not micro-manage, but lead when the path goes astray like in the 3Q.




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    Re: Ten Things I Saw On Tape

    Quote Originally Posted by Jsmoove View Post
    mattison had the same group minus some of the secondary and they look bad, Chuck P, same group with the addition of Jimmy and it was night and day. Im not ignoring the losses completely suggs and jj are huge even redding, but what Pees has been doing these last 2 games has been pretty mattison-esq. You lose starters to other teams all the time its the name of the game also to injury what makes you a good play caller is using what you got to their strengths even if that is limited you find a way Pees has not and for that matter Cam has not either, i think what we have seen from pees so far is what we are going to get this entire season. If I'm wrong you can check me on it Solo.
    I hear you man, it has been disappointing.

    However, Pees is working with essentially5 1st time starters (Ellerbe, McClellan, Kruger, McPhee, and Upshaw). I'd also toss Art Jones into that mix.

    Mattison and Pags had a front 7 (give or take 1 guy) who had been playing together for a long time.

    Turnover is going to happen in the NFL. No doubt about it, but it isn't always going to be a smooth transition at first. We saw the same thing last year with the offense. It was rough for a couple of weeks and really most of the year. Joe was throwing to a bunch of greenhorns with Boldin being the only guy who had starting experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsmoove View Post
    How is ot our secondary look stout under chuck, SHIT even Danny Goerrer look all pro under his scheme, but under pees they look like mattison secondary?? ALL THE MORE EVIDENCE DAN PEES IS A CRAP DC.
    This is your conclusion two games into the season? Give it time.




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    The reason that Williams and Smith have disappointed some is, because they have not been used properly. They are press CBs. Webb is the versatile one. They've been playing these guys in off-coverage and it hasn't been working. They can get better, but these are the struggles they would have to endure to get there.

    Pees was afraid of Vick running and, even though Celek was killing them, didn't change up. It cost him.

    Once Flacco threw the pick, Cameron got nervous and scaled back the offense. Philly dug in and it cost him.

    Harbaugh may not have liked the second half approaches, but I would think he should have done more to fix those problems than what seemed to take place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    They played both in the first but it looked like straight up man/press in the 2nd. They made adjustments and it was also clear they knew they could get away with grabbing the receiver all the way down field. These guys have figured out the officials and are pushing it to the brink.
    That is what irritates me. Castillo coached his players to push the envelope, but the Ravens didn't respond to what they were seeing. They have a coach watching the tape as the game is played. The coaches see the game. An adjustment in strategy was obviously necessary, but it didn't happen.
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    Re: Ten Things I Saw On Tape

    Quote Originally Posted by SC_Raven_Fan View Post
    That is what irritates me. Castillo coached his players to push the envelope, but the Ravens didn't respond to what they were seeing. They have a coach watching the tape as the game is played. The coaches see the game. An adjustment in strategy was obviously necessary, but it didn't happen.
    Harbs needs an intervention. Instead of Ali visiting the team, how about Stallone!
    This. At the end of the day we have to live with the fact that our "genious" of an OC was outcoached by a former offensive line coach who was on the hot seat for much of last year.




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    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    The reason that Williams and Smith have disappointed some is, because they have not been used properly. They are press CBs. Webb is the versatile one. They've been playing these guys in off-coverage and it hasn't been working. They can get better, but these are the struggles they would have to endure to get there.

    Pees was afraid of Vick running and, even though Celek was killing them, didn't change up. It cost him.

    Once Flacco threw the pick, Cameron got nervous and scaled back the offense. Philly dug in and it cost him.

    Harbaugh may not have liked the second half approaches, but I would think he should have done more to fix those problems than what seemed to take place.
    I agree with virtually every word in this post. I brought up the press stuff and somebody tried to tell me that our CB's can't press the Eagles guys because of a fear of getting beat deep...which I find ridiculous because we played a 2 deep shell for most of the game.

    Another observation I made in addition to the shitty play calling, lack of adjustments by our OC and DC...

    I will say that the funk Joe was in was pretty bizarre...I get the separation thing and all, but there were still some plays that Joe could have made. On the INT, Boldin was open on an out right at the sticks, but Joe was absolutely zero'd in on Pitta and didn't look at anyone else. That was a big play. Also, on the last drive, on second down, Joe threw a ball down the seem to a well covered Dickson when Torrey was WIDE open on a short crossing pattern that looked like it would have gotten us at least 7-8 yards. The rush seemed to have REALLY rattled him (in addition to the rib injury) and instead of sliding/stepping up in the pocket, most of the time he just drifted back and threw off his back foot. That last play...Joe could have stepped up as the DE's were being pushed behind him, but I definitely think the Eagles D seriously rattled him.




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    Re: Ten Things I Saw On Tape

    As a fan, I love Joe, but it did look like the rush was getting to him. The way Joe was playing earlier, there is no way he would have missed Pitta on that third and 2.
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    The team has serious issues of getting receivers open against press coverage. The same thing happened against Jacksonville and Seattle last year.
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    Re: Ten Things I Saw On Tape

    Quote Originally Posted by dandrews View Post
    The team has serious issues of getting receivers open against press coverage. The same thing happened against Jacksonville and Seattle last year.
    so spread it out and run a few delayed draws, quick slants. what am I missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dandrews View Post
    The team has serious issues of getting receivers open against press coverage. The same thing happened against Jacksonville and Seattle last year.
    Good point.....
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    Re: Ten Things I Saw On Tape

    You know how you fix press coverage? Slants, screens, rub plays, motion plays, drag routes and run the ball with sweeps or toss plays




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsmoove View Post
    You know how you fix press coverage? Slants, screens, rub plays, motion plays, drag routes and run the ball with sweeps or toss plays
    Cam is allergic to those West Coast Offensive plays




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    Re: Ten Things I Saw On Tape

    Quote Originally Posted by Jsmoove View Post
    You know how you fix press coverage? Slants, screens, rub plays, motion plays, drag routes and run the ball with sweeps or toss plays
    Actually not screens.

    The first play of the second half was a screen that was snuffed out pretty easily. Screens are for zone coverage usually because with man their will be eyes on the back the entire time.

    I agree that we should have used motion to our advantage more in the second half.




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