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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments



    I think Joe's point was that they were letting the Eagle dbs get away with all kinds of pulling, grabbing and holding all game.........and then called a tacky PI on Jones at crunch time. Even if he wasn't inbounds, and that is possible, the call is what it was.
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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    Sorry, but I can't take too seriously the comments of someone who works for the NFL's version of Pravda when he criticises someone (in this case Flacco, but it could be anyone) essentially criticising his paymasters.

    The real reason Flacco's comments are getting such scrutiny is because the Ravens lost. However, it wouldn't have surprised me if they had still been made if we'd won as it really is becoming a joke.
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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    Joe's full comments also discuss the physicality of the game. Eagles DBs realized they could get away with being more physical than usual, so they did everything they could to disrupt the Ravens offense.

    Flacco was alluding to the refs not calling PI's consistently. Why call OPI in the endzone when DPI was occurring during the whole route? That would frustrate anyone.

    Billick has a case, though. Flacco's maddening 2nd half performance made my stomach turn. This guy needs someone to stay in his ear constantly to keep him focused, sharp, and ready to play.
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    Love Flacco for speaking his mind, Those that disagree have that right, but to say Flacco is whining , when everyone who watched MNF knows that what Joe said is right. Whatever fallout that happens, so be it, but the officiating is making the NFL look real bad. Billick, dungy and others have to toe the company line because the make money representing it. Flacco may not show the emotion like some want, but he is smart enough to know that the game he plays and loves is stinking up the place with replacement refs. This is the type of player the NFL needs, not the bounty hunters,the thugs, or prima donnas. Those that love football hate to see what is happening to the games.
    If Flacco was hurt on the first play of the second half as mentioned, I say that could have cause his throws to be slightly off. No one has officially said Flacco had sore ribs, but it would affect his play. Billick has a job to do and can say what he wants. Remember this is billick who couldn't develop a QB for the ravens and missed several more chances to play in the SB because of his inability to find a franchise QB.
    Lets see how the refs and Flacco do this sunday night. Losing last sunday was hard, but the players gave us an exciting game to watch. Really loved it when the game extended in the steelers playing time. Thanks replacement refs for screwing up with ball placement and bad calls.
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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    Did Billick called out Aaron Rodgers when he complained about the scabs?




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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblue View Post
    Sorry, but I can't take too seriously the comments of someone who works for the NFL's version of Pravda when he criticises someone (in this case Flacco, but it could be anyone) essentially criticising his paymasters.

    The real reason Flacco's comments are getting such scrutiny is because the Ravens lost. However, it wouldn't have surprised me if they had still been made if we'd won as it really is becoming a joke.
    If Joe was going to say it, I wish it would have been AFTER A WIN so it didn't look like sour grapes/sore loser talk. If you win the game and say it, it has more merit and substance. I will say this, I'm actually surprised at how little bashing I'm seeing on Flacco for it but I think it's because everyone knows what he said was 100% correct and true....he just said it at the worst time (right after a painful loss).




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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    I didn't hear all of this complaining when Ray Lewis dissed the 'regular refs' for calling late penalties in their game against the Bengals that led to a game winning TD.

    Now, all of a sudden, since it's Flacco, it's a problem.

    At the end of the day. I agree that they had a chance to win the game in the end. The defense blew the lead and Flacco overthrew Pitta on the third and two.

    However, I can't understand the reasoning behind people saying that it shouldn't have got that far. If you look back at that game, it would be hard to count how much yardage they lost in PIs not called, along with PIs incorrectly called illegal contact/defensive holding.

    For example, the one time that Torrey Smith did blow by Rodgers-Cromartie, Cromartie nearly had him in an armbar for ten yards. That was one TD there, because the ball was on the money other wise. The illegal contact on Asomugha, after he grabbed Jones in the endzone, should have been a PI, putting the Ravens on the one, for what could have been a run-in TD. The OPI for Jones, shouldn't have been called, because A.) they were both engaging one another and B.) Asomugha was not playing the ball. Jones simply disengaged and went up. He didn't shove. Now, you're talking 21 points, when they still managed to put up 23 against a pretty good defense.

    I can see Joe's frustration, because if the game were called correctly in the least, it wouldn't have come down to that last drive.

    I've seen the best of the best complain about the refs. I didn't hear them get dissed for it and I don't care to hear it now, because Joe is right.
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    I have no problems with what Flacco said even if it made it seem like whining. Somebody inside the NFL (Player/coach) had to speak out and say it. I don't even think he cares that he may have to take a hit and get fined for it, it had to be put out there. Kudos to him, because he was 100% correct.
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    It's bad enough when a referee misses an obvious call, but to see the call and incorrectly interpret the penalty does indeed lack integrity.
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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Bhcforlife View Post
    What I'm saying is that they could have and should have slammed the door well before that play even had to matter. When you leave it up to the refs, you put yourself in a situation where something like this can happen.
    That's just not how it works. Those guys on the other side of the ball are getting paid too.




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    It was a bad call. Joe shouldn't have said anything.

    These refs are horrible, but there is nothing to be gained by a player talking about how horrible they are.

    Nothing.
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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    I can look at this situation from both angles that are being thrown out here and both are correct. Here's the thing...some tough games are just going to be a grind 'em out, very close game even playing at our best so, yes, sometimes the ref's call (good or bad) CAN be the game changer and the difference between a win and a loss. In the Eagles game, at the end of the day whether we played piss poor or not, that TD would have put us in the win column and that's what mattered. Yeah, we would have moaned about the way they played but we would have been happy eeking out the win.




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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    Quote Originally Posted by festivus View Post
    It was a bad call. Joe shouldn't have said anything.

    These refs are horrible, but there is nothing to be gained by a player talking about how horrible they are.

    Nothing.
    It's nothing to lose either.
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    Yea Flacco was wrong for calling out the Refs.

    http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...-fantasy-team/




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    Quote Originally Posted by dscola31 View Post
    Yea Flacco was wrong for calling out the Refs.

    http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...-fantasy-team/
    “During the game, they made like a bad call or something, the ref, and I see Ray Lewis like pump his chest up, trying to scare him,” LeSean McCoy told 94WIP’s Anthony Gargano and Ike Reese on the 94WIP Player’s Lounge on Monday. “Don’t you know [the ref] started stuttering? I’m like ‘what’s this?!’”
    Ha! Wow...
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