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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments



    If these were the regular refs then I could see Billick's point. Unfortunately these guys are clowns. They're have some terrible moments and deserve to be slammed because of it.
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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    Quote Originally Posted by dscola31 View Post
    Its funny how noone ever calls out Ray Lewis when he talks about the refs every game. Just a reason to pile on Flacco as usual.
    I don't agree with Ray saying anything either or any player on the Ravens for that matter.




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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    See I don't think Joe should have said anything because I think there is a losing etiquette you follow. But at the same time I'm going to tune out the the media pundits because Ray Lewis pretty much said the same thing and they aren't reporting that. It's all about going after the easy target by singling out Joe.




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    whatever the corporate sponsored talking heads of the NFL media say, has to be accurate. It's not like the NFL Network that is owned by THE NFL would try and dodge the egg headed straight for its face because of noticiably poor officiating this week. Nah, that's just Brian Billick whose is probably getting paid close to 7 figures shooting from the hip w/ unscripted stuff not signed off by his bosses.

    Gimme a break. The NFL is a multi billion dollar business that is as corporotized as a Walmart or Home Depot. The talking heads are paid (very handsomely) to explain the game in and X's & O's manner all the while promoting what the Owners of the league want.... an obedient group of people that don't question authority and dump money on tickets, psl's, team jerseys, team slippers, and all the garbage you can buy from the team website that has a 110% profit built into it.




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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    There were several times yesterday where Flacco threw his arms up wanting a flag after a play and I just sat there wishing someone would come and knock him down. Cut that crap out, keep your focus, and play like you can play. Did the officiating suck in just about every game played yesterday? Yes, but every single team in the league has to deal with these officials for the time being.

    The Ravens had ample opportunity to put the game away on both sides of the ball and hearing these guys put blame on the officials leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Look at yourself and your 8/26 passing in the second half, Joe.




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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    I'm betting that Joe plays lights out this Sunday Night since that's how things are with him, bad game followed by a good game. He shouldn't have said anything about the refs since it's not his forte to complain about something like that.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhcforlife View Post
    There were several times yesterday where Flacco threw his arms up wanting a flag after a play and I just sat there wishing someone would come and knock him down. Cut that crap out, keep your focus, and play like you can play. Did the officiating suck in just about every game played yesterday? Yes, but every single team in the league has to deal with these officials for the time being.

    The Ravens had ample opportunity to put the game away on both sides of the ball and hearing these guys put blame on the officials leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Look at yourself and your 8/26 passing in the second half, Joe.

    See that's what kills me. We DID win the game with a td pass. We would have been up 10 points. And what about the 2 illegal contact calls that should have been PI. Those plays lost us about 20 -30 yds of field position.

    So when people say the refs didn't cost us, I shake my head.




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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    Quote Originally Posted by dscola31 View Post
    See that's what kills me. We DID win the game with a td pass. We would have been up 10 points. And what about the 2 illegal contact calls that should have been PI. Those plays lost us about 20 -30 yds of field position.

    So when people say the refs didn't cost us, I shake my head.
    What I'm saying is that they could have and should have slammed the door well before that play even had to matter. When you leave it up to the refs, you put yourself in a situation where something like this can happen.

    I'm not saying the refs didn't cost us, I agree they were terrible and I also agree that the OPI call was awful, but again, those types of terrible calls/non calls happened all over the league yesterday. 15 teams and their fans are sitting around today with a loss and probably half of them at least are saying the officiating had some kind of role in the outcome.

    All I'm saying is that had Flacco completed a few more of those bad misses or Cameron had called a few more runs, or Pees had played aggressive instead of passive, that throw to Jones doesn't have the significance it ended up having. Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way, but that's how I feel about it.

    You can't put yourself in a position to let a call determine the outcome of the game.




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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    Alternate take:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...k-2/index.html

    Whatever, Joe Flacco said the thing that made the most sense Sunday, and the only thing that's regrettable is he was the losing quarterback in Philadelphia, so what he says can be seen as sour grapes. Flacco said of the NFL: "They talk about the integrity of the game, and I think this is along those lines. The fact that we don't have the normal guys out there is pretty crazy.''

    The game in Philadelphia showed that.




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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    For what it's worth, on Pardon the Interruption both Wilbon and Kornheiser side with Flacco.

    While they both agree that "the messenger" is suspect, because Joe could/should have just driven down the field to win, they also both agree that "the message" is 100% correct: there was no OPI, the touchdown should have counted, the refs are awful scabs.




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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    Quote Originally Posted by dscola31 View Post
    Its funny how noone ever calls out Ray Lewis when he talks about the refs every game. Just a reason to pile on Flacco as usual.
    I actually have to agree to an extent. I don't defend Joe for speaking out but the media is always looking for something from him to keep building that mountain from a mole hill or completely take things out of context. For this reason, when they bait him, he should just decline to answer. I know that's hard to do when your emotions are still raw but these media assclowns are vipers looking to strike and Joe has always been their favorite target.




  12. Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Basically said it could have gone either way.
    And that is where the problem lies here...... Consistency.

    Does it come off looking like sour grapes? ...... Pretty much.

    But with that being said, Flacco IS right in the message he was trying to say.

    You have the best in the world making big freakin bucks in a gazillion dollar industry playing in these games.
    There are huge bucks being forked over by the fans to watch these games that expect to have the best of the best on the field officiating these games.

    Right now, these cats they're running out there aren't even close which indeed affects the integrity of the game which is unacceptable.

    Flacco ain't the only one calling this bullshit what it is.
    Seems since the onset of the pre-season this has been a topic of discussion nation wide with different coaches or players speaking up.

    Back to the consistency I mentioned earlier and that call that IMO should not have been made.


    It's kind of like umpiring in baseball.

    Once the umpire establishes the strikezone it needs to stay that way.
    You can't have high strikes being called balls at one point of the game, and then turn around later and change it.

    DBs for Philly were grabbing all game and most of it was ignored or called wrong.
    Guys were arm checking and fighting for the ball all game with little to no input from the officials.

    Technically was it OPI? Probably so but as mentioned, the DB never really turned around for the ball and was pushing and shoving with Jacoby Jones the whole time as well.

    To use a Billick word here... the prudent thing to do would have been a non call at all that would have stayed somewhat consistent with the rest of the way the WR/DB interaction was being handled and NOT called for most of the game.

    That in Flaccos opinion is what he is saying by messing with the integrity of the game and I and many others agree.

    With that being said....
    That ain't what cost us that game, but it certainly has it's hand in the outcome.
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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Funny how Dungy, Pereira, and now Billick have all said the penalty was legit yet some still can't accept it ....
    ... and Dungy's studio partner Rodney Harrison said he would be grabbing and holding all day long because the officials aren't calling anything correctly. So there you go.




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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    Quote Originally Posted by alien bird View Post
    ... and Dungy's studio partner Rodney Harrison said he would be grabbing and holding all day long because the officials aren't calling anything correctly. So there you go.
    Saw that too... and.. sadly, I agree with him....

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    Re: Billick calls out Flacco for comments

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fanatic View Post
    You have the best in the world making big freakin bucks in a gazillion dollar industry playing in these games.
    There are huge bucks being forked over by the fans to watch these games that expect to have the best of the best on the field officiating these games.

    Right now, these cats they're running out there aren't even close which indeed affects the integrity of the game which is unacceptable..

    If its so unacceptable then vote with your feet.

    The owners know you won't so they have the regular refs right where they want them. Sure people are grumbling and complaining, but not really any more so than on a regular Sunday. Pretty much just the losers. I didn't hear anything about the officiating last week.

    No one is going to stop watching football because of the replacement refs. So the regular refs either cave, or they never get their job back.




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