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  1. #91
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    Re: Don't blame the offense. Don't blame the defense. Blame the refs, and only the refs.



    Regs were not good, but the Ravens were worse. The second to last pass of the game by Joe was awful.




  2. #92

    Re: Don't blame the offense. Don't blame the defense. Blame the refs, and only the refs.

    Owners are too greedy, there won't be a deal until most of the teams lose one game because of the scabs.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dade View Post
    True but he was in the grasp of the defender...should've been called a sack. QB are not allowed to flick the ball forward to avoid a negative play while taking a sack.
    Doesn't matter.

    Once you're outside the pocket, you the chuck the ball forward all you want.
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    Re: Don't blame the offense. Don't blame the defense. Blame the refs, and only the refs.

    I'll say it again. Vick was in the grasp of Ngata. Play should've been blown dead, ruled a sack. Would've been 3rd and goal from the 7.

    Officials are to blow the play dead as soon as the quarterback is clearly in the grasp and control of any tackler, and his safety is in jeopardy.
    http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/protectionofpasser

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Doesn't matter.

    Once you're outside the pocket, you the chuck the ball forward all you want.
    Doesn't say anything about being outside the pocket.




  5. #95

    Re: Don't blame the offense. Don't blame the defense. Blame the refs, and only the refs.

    Quote Originally Posted by CRZA938 View Post
    Regs were not good, but the Ravens were worse. The second to last pass of the game by Joe was awful.
    didn't Joe had a game like that against Pitt 2 years ago? Horrible pass to Rice on 4th down.




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    Re: Officiating (Merged Threads)

    Quote Originally Posted by Real Fan Dan View Post
    You're right.
    Flacco was terrible. He has absolutely no business throwing at one of his recievers when the defender is hanging all over him. The Refs were correct on every call and a 7-14 point swing has absolutely nothing to do with a 1 run ball game.
    Dan with all due respect, although Flacco was terrible, that has nothing to do with a really bad offensive pi call on Jones, an even worse defensive pi non-call when Torrey was trying to get under Joe's pass. Particularly in view of the fact that Joe's throws were off, to take away a perfectly thrown td and a well-thrown sideline pass by disgracefully bad calls was the difference between winning the game and being edged out of the win. The officiating was horrible.




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    Re: Officiating (Merged Threads)

    Quote Originally Posted by RockyMRaven View Post
    Particularly in view of the fact that Joe's throws were off, to take away a perfectly thrown td and a well-thrown sideline pass by disgracefully bad calls was the difference between winning the game and being edged out of the win. The officiating was horrible.
    This.....really simple.
    Way Down South in New Orleans




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    Re: Officiating (Merged Threads)

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Doesn't matter.

    Once you're outside the pocket, you the chuck the ball forward all you want.
    That is not correct, the ball still needs to cross the line of scrimmage, which on that play was the 1 yard line. The ball hit the ground at the 5 yard line with no receivers in the area and should have been intentional grounding.

    http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/intentionalgrounding

    Read the last section.




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    Quote Originally Posted by NCCRavensFan View Post
    That is not correct, the ball still needs to cross the line of scrimmage, which on that play was the 1 yard line. The ball hit the ground at the 5 yard line with no receivers in the area and should have been intentional grounding.

    http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/intentionalgrounding

    Read the last section.
    Read that again.

    You made my argument for me.
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  10. #100

    Re: Officiating (Merged Threads)

    Quote Originally Posted by NCCRavensFan View Post
    That is not correct, the ball still needs to cross the line of scrimmage, which on that play was the 1 yard line. The ball hit the ground at the 5 yard line with no receivers in the area and should have been intentional grounding.

    http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/intentionalgrounding

    Read the last section.
    Just going to post the same thing. Height of arrogance to act like you know all the rules before reading the actual rules...

    Item 1: Passer or Ball Outside Tackle Position. Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer,
    who is outside, or has been outside, the tackle position throws a forward pass that lands at or beyond
    the line of scrimmage,
    even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including
    when the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or endline). If a loose ball leaves the area
    bordered by the tackles, this area no longer exists; if the ball is recovered, all intentional grounding
    rules apply as if the passer is outside this area.




  11. #101

    Re: Officiating (Merged Threads)

    Quote Originally Posted by NCCRavensFan View Post
    That is not correct, the ball still needs to cross the line of scrimmage, which on that play was the 1 yard line. The ball hit the ground at the 5 yard line with no receivers in the area and should have been intentional grounding.

    http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/intentionalgrounding

    Read the last section.
    Which is all pointless because they were reviewing the play as a fumble. They can't throw a new penalty flag while under the hood.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevlar View Post
    Which is all pointless because they were reviewing the play as a fumble. They can't throw a new penalty flag while under the hood.
    Exactly.
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  13. #103

    Re: Officiating (Merged Threads)

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenusMaximus View Post
    Mod, nothing personal, but why would you merge a thread with one from last week's game?

    Completely different animal.
    Because people were already starting to put game posts in here, along with 2 other threads.




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    Re: Officiating (Merged Threads)

    It sucked, both ways. we got the worst of it. Seeing how they got a TD on thier first drive partly becuase of a "roughing the passer".

    Then the two pass interference calls that were called "illegal contact", shoulda had the ball at the 1 on that call Jacoby was interfered with in the endzone.


    I'm not sure what's worse the bad or missed calls... or these guys don't fully understand the rules.
    We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid. - Benjamin Franklin




  15. #105

    Re: Officiating (Merged Threads)

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Exactly.
    I'll bite because a person like me thinks another person may just be deliberating misleading, failing to point to a relevant rule to justify a blanket conclusion (which you have already done once and proven wrong), simply to drive traffic. So fair enough, I suppose you are just doing your job.




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