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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?



    Quote Originally Posted by Bhcforlife View Post
    Oher was absolutely an issue today. No offense, but some of you really need to take off the purple glasses when it comes to him. He was awful, the entire f**king offensive line was awful. Someone was in the backfield on literally every passing play in the second half.
    Other than the Trent Cole strip...he didn't give up any ridiculous pressure on Flacco.

    Again, the pressure mostly came up the middle.

    I try to be pretty impartial when it comes to pretty much every player. I call it like I see it. The OL wasn't great today, but Oher was hardly the biggest issue on the OL. Free-running DT's over Birk and Harewood were MUCH more of an issue. Rice also missed a block in the backfield that got Flacco hit pretty hard too.

    Bhc - you might as well not even comment or concern yourself with worrying about Oher at LT because it won't matter how good of a performance he puts in, you'll never be able to put aside your distaste for him as a player to acknowledge that maybe he has gotten better and could be a decent player.

    Again - you don't need a top flight LT to be successful. Most teams have average at best offensive tackles and they succeed offensively.

    That's why the sugar huddle makes sense. It plays to Oher's strengths and at the same time nullifies the pass rush by tiring out the DL and running a lot of quick-hitting passes and runs up the middle.
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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Quote Originally Posted by LC_Ravens_87 View Post
    strip sack is big minus for Oher, but otherwise I thought he held up. All the extra help was going to Osemele's side too.

    The wide 9 only works if you have guys in the middle to collapse, otherwise a QB can step up in behind the crease left by the D-End. Oher did his job by running Cole past the pocket 9/10. Can't say the same for the middle. How many times could Flacco not step into a throw today b/c of pressure in his face?
    Too many.

    That overthrow to Pitta in the end zone would have been an easy TD had Flacco been able to step into his throw. Granted, I'm sure he makes that throw off his back foot 9 times out of 10, but when you have a free-runner DT right in your face as soon as you snap the ball...makes it kind of hard to keep the accuracy.
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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Birk is a liability. as mentione dpreviosly, Joe couldnt step into his throws with Birk being pushed back onto him. Woolfork will have a field day with him next week.




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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Bhc - you might as well not even comment or concern yourself with worrying about Oher at LT because it won't matter how good of a performance he puts in, you'll never be able to put aside your distaste for him as a player to acknowledge that maybe he has gotten better and could be a decent player.

    Again - you don't need a top flight LT to be successful. Most teams have average at best offensive tackles and they succeed offensively.

    That's why the sugar huddle makes sense. It plays to Oher's strengths and at the same time nullifies the pass rush by tiring out the DL and running a lot of quick-hitting passes and runs up the middle.
    I don't have a distaste for Oher at all, I call it like I see it. I think he's a decent RT who isn't cut out to be a LT in the NFL. All I've seen of him at LT is poor play against anyone of note. Sure, he might have a good game against a DE who nobody outside of that teams fans knows, but when it comes to name guys like Cole, he's awful. Don't know what you were watching today. Pressure was coming from everywhere. If Oher ever does become better and develop into an even "decent" LT, I'll be the first to say I was wrong, but that point hasn't come yet.

    I stand by what I saw today and what I've seen in the past. I'm not against him, why would I be? I'm a Ravens fan and want them all to do well but I'm also not a raging homer who thinks everything is fine when it's not. I'll say again that some of you need to take off the purple glasses, and not just for Oher. I don't understand how being critical of a player who deserves the criticism equals you not liking the player.




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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bhcforlife View Post
    I don't have a distaste for Oher at all, I call it like I see it. I think he's a decent RT who isn't cut out to be a LT in the NFL. All I've seen of him at LT is poor play against anyone of note. Sure, he might have a good game against a DE who nobody outside of that teams fans knows, but when it comes to name guys like Cole, he's awful. Don't know what you were watching today. Pressure was coming from everywhere. If Oher ever does become better and develop into an even "decent" LT, I'll be the first to say I was wrong, but that point hasn't come yet.

    I stand by what I saw today and what I've seen in the past. I'm not against him, why would I be? I'm a Ravens fan and want them all to do well but I'm also not a raging homer who thinks everything is fine when it's not. I'll say again that some of you need to take off the purple glasses, and not just for Oher. I don't understand how being critical of a player who deserves the criticism equals you not liking the player.
    See the bold point.

    By my calculations, Trent Cole only had 1 sack/forced fumble on the same play...other than that he didn't do much. Sure, he put pressure on every now and then, but he is one of the better DE's in the league.

    The defining pressure on the offense came over Birk. Cullen Jenkins and Derek Landri were having their way with Birk and Harewood. Joe couldn't step up into the pocket at all. That was more of an impact than any pressure Cole could have put on Flacco from the left side of the line.
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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    You know that you can't judge pressure just in terms of sacks. I do agree that the biggest problems were on the interior, but I don't buy that Oher and Osemele weren't a problem as well. I saw the pocket collapsing on Joe basically the entire second half, and not just from the inside. I plan on watching the game again and if I'm wrong I'll certainly come back and say that.

    Cole is one of the better DE's in the league but if Oher is a good LT then he should be able to handle him. We play Demarcus Ware, Orakpo, Pierre-Paul/Tuck, Harrison/Woodley, the Texans guys, etc. Cole is a fine player but I don't think he's better than any of those guys & again, IMO, Oher didn't do a great job on him. Could be trouble down the road. Just my opinion.

    Birk is a joke at this point. That we can agree on. It is unfortunate that Gradkowski is still a year away.




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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bhcforlife View Post
    You know that you can't judge pressure just in terms of sacks. I do agree that the biggest problems were on the interior, but I don't buy that Oher and Osemele weren't a problem as well. I saw the pocket collapsing on Joe basically the entire second half, and not just from the inside. I plan on watching the game again and if I'm wrong I'll certainly come back and say that.

    Birk is a joke at this point. That we can agree on. It is unfortunate that Gradkowski is still a year away.
    I'm not at all, but I think if you re-watch the game you'll see pressure from Cole and Babin, but on a whole (all things considered) Oher and KO held up pretty well to two of the better DE's in the league.
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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    He might have only given up one sack but i am positive he gave up 2+ big hits. He is a RT.




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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    ILMAO - I saw the title of this thread and wondered what game did the OP watch and then realized the thread was left over from last week and some people don't have any probs with Oher getting killed at the top of the game and Joe losing the ball, Philly scores which turned out to be the difference in the game.

    Once again we lose the game in the trenches on both sides of the ball with NE coming up where we lost them in NE for the same reasons. I said before the season started Joe had to score 30 pts to cover for the young D. He did last week but not yesterday needing only 2 more pts for the win.


    The o-line got killed and was over-run again early yesterday and they came out and punched the D in the face in the 2d half. What are some of you watching - the cheer leaders?
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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    The OL that the Ravens are currently going with is a much better run blocking OL then it is a pass blocking OL. So, I don't understand what they are doing if they are going to be a pass happy team. Oher got beat badly several times in yesterday's game. One was the strip, but there were a few other times where he got beat that resulted in Flacco taking some big hits. Birk was overmatched again, and Harewood struggled mightly in pass blocking. In the second half the Ravens went away from the no huddle offense as well. So, why isn't McKinnie playing again?




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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    I was pissed about the Sack/fumble which wasnt just a good play by Cole, but a bad one by Oher, but overall he again didnt play bad. If you want him to be JO, it isnt going to happen, but ill admit I didnt think he could play LT but he seems to at least be adequate which is good enough to win in this league. a play here or there or a bad call reversed and we win a game we had no business winning. To me thats pretty good.
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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Bhc, Oher did not have a bad game at all. What game were you watching?? I just rewatched the game to watch the OL specifically and other than the second play of the game (strip sack) Cole didn't even hit Flacco once. You are completely wrong. He didn't have a stand out game, but to say he played bad is completely wrong




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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Pressure was definately coming from everywhere so to call out Oher exclusively I think is a bit premature. I''m anxious to read feedback from those who suscribe to the game rewind which includes coaches film.




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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Quote Originally Posted by runrayrun27 View Post
    Bhc, Oher did not have a bad game at all. What game were you watching?? I just rewatched the game to watch the OL specifically and other than the second play of the game (strip sack) Cole didn't even hit Flacco once. You are completely wrong. He didn't have a stand out game, but to say he played bad is completely wrong
    Oher missed several blocks that got Flacco hit pretty hard. Overall, I don't think he had a bad game though, because most of the OL struggled in pass blocking. My biggest beef in yesterday's game was play calling. The point I was making about the OL was that if the Ravens are going to pass this much, then why not have the best pass blocking OL on the field? Right now, they have their best run blocking OL out there, but they aren't running the ball that much.




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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Anyone whose post contains "other than the strip sack" doesnt get it.




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