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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?



    There were only a few of us that liked the McKinney move out of the lineup, now we see why. Next week will be a test for the tackles.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Haloti92 View Post

    Yeah, or more like he is not afraid of getting picked (or getting yelled at by Cam, etc). He is slinging it, not "playing it safe" like I am sure he was instructed to do in the past. He simply has earned the responsibility for the decision-making, similar to the audibling (and no-huddle), and it shows on the field.

    It wouldn't surprise me if he finishes the season with a few more picks than usual, but then again maybe he won't. And either way, I wouldn't care if he did, if throwing them (taking chances) leads to this kind of offensive output. I always felt that our philosophy over-weighted offensive turnovers (obviously because our defense was the water-carrier for our team up until now). I realize they are painful and can be disasterous and can lead to opponent's points, and I realize we need to win the turnover battle, etc, but at some level you can go too far in trying to avoid making them to the point you hamstring your offense and reduce your chances of winning.
    Rivers threw something like 20 picks last year and the year before Brees tossed like 68...yet folks clamor around them as elite QB's.

    I agree with you. Sure, it is more of a gamble, but it could also be the catalyst for the best offensive season in Ravens history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbirds80 View Post
    There were only a few of us that liked the McKinney move out of the lineup, now we see why. Next week will be a test for the tackles.
    Like I kept saying...you can get away with average and even below average tackles if your QB is getting the ball out quickly and the coordinator game plans effectively.

    That's what happened tonight. It completely tired their DL out and took away their pass rush (for the most part ).
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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Ill eat some crow but i dont think anybody predicted harewood at LG and to play so well. They looked great out there. My opinion doesnt hold water to the ravens FO and coaching staff, i hope people realize that before i even sy it. Although mckinnie looked solid in garbage time and heavy sets... Haha.
    -JAB




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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    I have to admit I was like "huh" when they announced Harewood was starting. The guy played an excellent game. I thought for the most part with a few blips here and there the line was pretty damn good. Its a really good start for them as a group.
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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    I will reserve judgment until after a couple more games. They played well tonight, outside of Birk, who is a real problem.




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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Anyone else? Any other thoughts?

    Oher and KO are better than McKinnie and Oher. Any way you slice it...I think this is the OL that they were hoping to achieve. Young, nasty, quick, and strong.

    Birk, just because of his age, is going to be the weak spot and targets for DL'men, but honestly...Geno Atkins does that kind of thing to everyone. I doubt Birk gets singled out too much moving forward.
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  8. #38

    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Even if Birk does, we've got a young C on the way as well. Still, long way to go, but a really good entrée for the season.




  9. #39

    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Looking at more video, and on the highlight plays alone there are multiple missed assignments, so I imagine that they were plenty throughout the game. Difference this year is that Flacco has time to absorb what the defense is showing him pre-snap, and he is getting the ball out faster. Both as designed.




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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    I was pleasantly surprised with the OL play as well. I hadn't bought into the line that the Ravens were playing their top 5 offensive linemen, because I don't regard Harewood to be among the top 5 OL on the team. However, he played well. I thought Oher played well too. I still don't like how much ground he gives up in pass protection. A few times last night he got pushed back into Flacco, but for the most part he looked good. Oher is also a much better run blocker than McKinnie. I'll reserve judgment until after the Eagles game. The Eagles have a good pass rush, so let's see how they play in that game.




  11. #41

    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Birk may be the weak spot, but without his knowledge and leadership, would this young line be nearly as good?




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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Quote Originally Posted by YorkRavensFan View Post
    Birk may be the weak spot, but without his knowledge and leadership, would this young line be nearly as good?
    No.




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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Quote Originally Posted by YorkRavensFan View Post
    Birk may be the weak spot, but without his knowledge and leadership, would this young line be nearly as good?
    No way. He makes all of the line calls and adjustments.
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  14. #44

    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    My point exactly. Everyone talking about he's the weak spot and we need to move on from him is asking for trouble. You want to see missed assignments, put the young guy in there and see what happens.




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    Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Oher and KO are better than McKinnie and Oher. Any way you slice it...I think this is the OL that they were hoping to achieve. Young, nasty, quick, and strong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt1 View Post
    I thought Oher played well too. I still don't like how much ground he gives up in pass protection. A few times last night he got pushed back into Flacco, but for the most part he looked good. Oher is also a much better run blocker than McKinnie. I'll reserve judgment until after the Eagles game. The Eagles have a good pass rush, so let's see how they play in that game.
    I think thats the only way it is better. Say what you want about McKinnie, but hes probably the best pass protector on the team. So any way you slice it? no. although as long as Flacco can get the ball out that quick, his deficiencies will be masked and his strengths magnified, which is exactly what you want and what were hoping for.

    As far as Birk, hes the best option we have, and yeah he got mauled from time to time, but we were facing a top 10 defense with Peko and Atkins on the inside. He did a good job. the entire line did.
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