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09-08-2012, 04:00 PM #49Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Osemele to start at tackle on Monday night
We could still see Mckinnie in the game. Maybe we are using those six guys in rotations.
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Re: Osemele to start at tackle on Monday night
I agree, which is why i still hold that game against Bobby even though it does make sense as to why it happened. you seem to be dismissing it because Gradkowski isnt as good as KO but regardless it was the exact same deal, he didnt block the guy infront of him and it happened on more than one occasion with Williams.
At least we will know if Oher can play left tackle or not.-JAB
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Re: Osemele to start at tackle on Monday night
I'm not of the mindset that Oher is going to be anything more than an average LT in the league. I still feel that his best position would be (and should be) guard. However, he displayed footwork and recovery this pre-season that he hasn't showed before. At the very least, I think he could be a serviceable LT and not get Joe killed. However, he could also really surprise and develop into a slightly above average or even - GASP dare I say it?! - good left tackle. It'll be interesting to see, that's for sure.
I think you could definitely be right. I wouldn't be surprised to see Harewood, McKinnie and Jah rotating in to keep guys' legs fresh.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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09-08-2012, 04:20 PM #53
Re: Osemele to start at tackle on Monday night
Veldheer came in and played admirably as a rook, to my eyes.
Oher has started in two seperate years at Lt, looking worse the second try then the first.
A better example is D'Brickishaw ferguson who looked completely overmatched physically as a rook, and took a couple years to grow into his role.
The problme, to me, is that Oher hasn't looked physically overmatched, he's looked mentally overmatched consistantly his entire pro career, LT or right. Also, to my eyeys, the best he looked was on the right as a rookie. He seems to have gotten progressively worse with each passing year.
I REALLY< REALLY think he would be best served playing guard. It's not a slam, I think his game, body type and Strengths/Weaknesses play out much better inside. I'll probabloy never find that out.
All that said, this preseason he looked very different. I even saw him use his arms extended a few times to keep the rusher at a distance, something i had previously thought he was reluctant to do. I think that is a bigger issue then his false start epidemic, and actually could cure that issue if he gets comfortable doing so. He leaves the line too early in hopes of getting up under his mark's shoulder pads to body him off the ball, I'd much rather see him take his time, and steer the defender around the pocket using his hands/arms the way every other LT does.
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09-08-2012, 04:25 PM #54
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Re: Osemele to start at tackle on Monday night
This I have to agree with. He has always looked physically great, and good enough it's his mental errors, that go all the way back to HS, it is the most concerning thing IMO. This is his real chance to show that he has overcame that problem, otherwise he will be a right tackle or a guard for the rest of his NFL career.
I wouldn't say progressively worse is fair, he looked better this year than 2010 (admittedly that was on the right side.)
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09-08-2012, 04:38 PM #56
Re: Osemele to start at tackle on Monday night
It wasn't that he looked worse on the right in 11 then he did at LT in 2010, in this case i mean worse in that the hurdle was lower and he still plowed into it. He sure did look better on the right, but in my eyes that is an easier accomplishment. As a rook he looked like a Probowler, as a second year he showed he was completely incapable of Lt and last year he looked very mediocre on the right. I would say that average is as nice a word as I could use to explains last years RT play, which is better then I would ever use for '10 on the left.
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09-08-2012, 04:40 PM #57Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Osemele to start at tackle on Monday night
I believe Oher will be better this time around at LT. He's just looked a lot more in tune, just overall a better player. Osemele will make some mistakes and have some bumps in the road, but I see him being a nice RT, especially in the run game. I think it's great to have a reliable 3rd tackle. Keeping Bryant around will prove to be the right move, you can never have enough reliable, solid tackles IMO.
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09-08-2012, 04:47 PM #58
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Re: Osemele to start at tackle on Monday night
It became clear in the preseason why the Ravens wanted McKinnie at a certain weight at the beginning of training camp. And that was probably with the hope that he could drop a few more and get in better shape as training camp went on. McKinnie didn't get it done. I am ok going with Osemele and Oher. I think the face paced offense can help to mask some of their struggles.
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09-08-2012, 05:04 PM #59
Re: Osemele to start at tackle on Monday night
one good thing is that the hurry up offense will also keep DE's tired, making Oher's job easier then in the past. If Joe can continue to get the ball out quick that magnifies that. At that point, the line is basically a run blocking unit that can hold up a BIT in the pass game. Those are hurdles I think Oher can clear, and be effective in. IF, big if, that all happens, this could be a good move as everyone agrees Big Mike is a better runblocker then Big Mac.
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09-08-2012, 05:09 PM #60
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Re: Osemele to start at tackle on Monday night
A+ post here, i was really hopin Mckinney would be motivated this year because no one has gotten 100% out of that cat yet and Mckinney at 50% is average so its scary if he actually had worked hard but he didn't Oher may not be your protoypical LT but he works hard and at 100% he is better than average. To me this move seems to commit more to the ground game we know Mckinney can't run block worth a shit so this makes the run game stronger with Oher on one side and KO on the other, we Yanda is mr Mauler and so was Williams in Cincy check with Ceddy Benson. It will be i believe a strong run team now.
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