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    Quote Originally Posted by Dade View Post
    I guess Emmett C. Burns Jr. doesn't want to get re elected.
    He will win reelection easily. It's the referendum that's in the works that he won't survive.
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    Re: Brendon Ayanbadejo vs a politician?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    I agree...although I do think the vast majority would think the delegate is a complete and utter moron...regardless of political affiliation.
    True.
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    Re: Politician tells Bisciotti to put a lid on BA's public support for same sex marriage (Merged)

    The controversy is a bit more complicated than the article makes it sound, though Burns is clearly foolish for sending that letter.

    It isn't that BA simply made comments supporting gay marriage, which he has done in the past. It was that he gifted two tickets to Monday's game supporting a fund raiser for an activist political group (Marylanders for Marriage Equality).

    Obviously he has every right to do that, as long as the Ravens do not have a problem with it, but he was definitely campaigning on one side of a political issue, and he was doing it as much as a Baltimore Raven as simply Brendon Ayanbadejo (he could have donated money directly to the cause without having his status as a Raven even enter the equation).

    The Ravens do not have a problem with it, which is all that matters. But one can imagine how teams might want to limit the extent that their players openly engage in controversial political activism while acting as a member of the team, as opposed to just a citizen. In fact, I suspect the Ravens do have rules/limitations regarding participation in politics while acting as a "Raven," but this instance didn't come close to the line.
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    Re: Politician tells Bisciotti to put a lid on BA's public support for same sex marriage (Merged)

    Didn't Adalius Thomas used to have a radio show where he talked more about politics than sports?

    Peter Boulware ran for office after he retired. I remember him sometimes being quoted for a political comment but not very often.

    It seems that the Ravens have a tradition of players speaking out though I'm not sure it's to the extent of BA
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    Re: Politician tells Bisciotti to put a lid on BA's public support for same sex marriage (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    He will win reelection easily. It's the referendum that's in the works that he won't survive.
    Huh? Homosexual marriage rights have been rejected by referenda in 34 consecutive states since 2006, including relatively liberal states such as Hawaii. It seems to me that Mr. Burns is making a political stunt here tied to the upcoming Maryland referendum, for which he can claim to have been on the right side of the issue if it also is rejected by voters. Right or wrong, it looks to me to be a political maneuver which could benefit Mr. Burns. I had never heard of him before, and betcha that's true of most Marylanders outside of his district.
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    Re: Politician tells Bisciotti to put a lid on BA's public support for same sex marriage (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    Huh? Homosexual marriage rights have been rejected by referenda in 34 consecutive states since 2006, including relatively liberal states such as Hawaii. It seems to me that Mr. Burns is making a political stunt here tied to the upcoming Maryland referendum, for which he can claim to have been on the right side of the issue if it also is rejected by voters. Right or wrong, it looks to me to be a political maneuver which could benefit Mr. Burns. I had never heard of him before, and betcha that's true of most Marylanders outside of his district.
    What do other states / areas have to do with the voters in his district?

    His area of the state is heavily influenced by black evangelicals, who are overwhelmingly opposed to gay marriage. He's simply responding to their whims and yes, he will win his reelection hands down. MD-10 is basically west Baltimore but outside the city lines. Lots of churches and lots of folks opposed and lots of folks opposed to MD's law allowing gay marriages.

    The more disturbing part to all of this, IMO, is an elected official actually putting on paper a request to punish someone for speaking their mind. That's far more chilling than anything else.
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    Re: Politician tells Bisciotti to put a lid on BA's public support for same sex marriage (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    Huh? Homosexual marriage rights have been rejected by referenda in 34 consecutive states since 2006, including relatively liberal states such as Hawaii. It seems to me that Mr. Burns is making a political stunt here tied to the upcoming Maryland referendum, for which he can claim to have been on the right side of the issue if it also is rejected by voters. Right or wrong, it looks to me to be a political maneuver which could benefit Mr. Burns. I had never heard of him before, and betcha that's true of most Marylanders outside of his district.
    To which I say, just because it is rejected doesn't mean it's the right side of the issue. Anyone on the "right" side of this issue is better reevaluate their thinking. Pure arrogance on the part of this politician to think he being the 'powerful intellectual' can quiet the 'dumb jock'. One day BA's belief will become a reality and Delegate Dumbass will be somewhere claiming he was for it all along.




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    Re: Politician tells Bisciotti to put a lid on BA's public support for same sex marriage (Merged)

    Is this the Burns guy from 'The Simpsons'?




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    Re: Politician tells Bisciotti to put a lid on BA's public support for same sex marriage (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by JMUpurkfool View Post
    To which I say, just because it is rejected doesn't mean it's the right side of the issue. Anyone on the "right" side of this issue is better reevaluate their thinking. Pure arrogance on the part of this politician to think he being the 'powerful intellectual' can quiet the 'dumb jock'. One day BA's belief will become a reality and Delegate Dumbass will be somewhere claiming he was for it all along.
    I totally agree with you, man. This issue will one day seem as ridiculous as when women and minorities didn't have voting rights. People are people. Get over it. This guy looks as foolish as DC's Marion Berry, who voted to pass the DC marriage equality bill, and then publicly stated that he wasn't paying attention to what he was voting for, and asked for a re-vote. Only foolish people let foolish people speak for them.




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    Re: Politician tells Bisciotti to put a lid on BA's public support for same sex marriage (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post

    The more disturbing part to all of this, IMO, is an elected official actually putting on paper a request to punish someone for speaking their mind. That's far more chilling than anything else.
    That's the issue here. It's another reason to hate politicians. The arrogance is sickening.
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    Re: Politician tells Bisciotti to put a lid on BA's public support for same sex marriage (Merged)

    Chris Kluwe sends letter to Burns, and it's a pretty funny read. Well done ....

    http://deadspin.com/5941348/they-won...-supporting-it
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    Re: Politician tells Bisciotti to put a lid on BA's public support for same sex marriage (Merged)

    Chris Kluwe is the smartest player in the NFL.




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    Re: Politician tells Bisciotti to put a lid on BA's public support for same sex marriage (Merged)

    I love Chris Kluwe

    Always going to the media with witty stunts like when McNabb was his teammate or talking about the lockout or occasionally putting out statements on serious issues




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    Re: Politician tells Bisciotti to put a lid on BA's public support for same sex marriage (Merged)

    I fully support BA's right to speak and not have it interfered with by politicians, but I disagree with his position.




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    Re: Politician tells Bisciotti to put a lid on BA's public support for same sex marriage (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    What do other states / areas have to do with the voters in his district?

    His area of the state is heavily influenced by black evangelicals, who are overwhelmingly opposed to gay marriage. He's simply responding to their whims and yes, he will win his reelection hands down. MD-10 is basically west Baltimore but outside the city lines. Lots of churches and lots of folks opposed and lots of folks opposed to MD's law allowing gay marriages.

    The more disturbing part to all of this, IMO, is an elected official actually putting on paper a request to punish someone for speaking their mind. That's far more chilling than anything else.
    Maybe he is not responding to "their whims", or what they might call their beliefs and positions; maybe he too holds them.

    I don't get why it is necessary to insult a position you diagree with by calling it names like a whim or bigoted or whatever. If it is a bad position just attack the position.




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