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    Re: Head Scratchers (pertaining to the roster)



    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    What in the world is this rumor going around?
    The one about bcraven's sister in law getting a job? Or the one about the Ravens potentially signing the great Ricky Proehl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pslholder96 View Post
    Are you promoting this "Dixon over TT" arguement based one the one game Dixon started against us back in 2009? Don't you think that premise is a little flawed given the very little body of work? I consider the Steelers pretty good talent evaluators and it's telling to me when he can't beat out Charlie Batch for the back positon behind Big Ben.
    Batch is a proven backup that can get the job done if need be. The Steelers have a lot of faith in Batch.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    There should be no knock against Charlie Batch. He stands head & shoulders above Taylor or Painter, and the Steelers obviously prefer Batch to Dixon. IIRC, Batch had our guys on the ropes with a quality performance in Pittsburgh in 2010, until a great Flacco-Houshmanzadeh TD play spoiled their party.
    Sorry Charlie Batch is Charlie Batch. He strikes fear into no one. He's a backup for a reason. That game in 2010 was a defensive struggle. Neither offense was lighting up.




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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    The OP feels that some of the roster moves are questionable. Is Ozzie really above the point where he can be questioned? He's not saying the team is horrible or won't win. Why is there always such an attack dog mentality when a fan questions the coaches, players or front office? Yes they've won a lot of game but they also haven't won a Championship in over a decade. They are not above reproach.
    Well, speaking for myself, I never said they were.

    However, the 3 criticisms the OP presented are off base, IMO, and show a lack of understanding of why those decisions were made. Hence, my response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot View Post
    31 other coaches passed on Omar too. Gorrer went because he was our 5th CB and doesn't play special teams. The new safety is important because we only have 3 healthy ones on the opening day roster so we needed someone and he's easily the best available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    Wow ... that sure is exaggerated! I don't recall anyone insisting that 1/2 personnel decisions were fucked up. The OP in this thread discussed three head-scratchers. Many Ravens fans would agree that the Kindle, Payne, and/or Dixon/Taylor moves or non-moves are questionable, meriting debate.
    T, he didn't say 1/2 of the personnel decision were fucked up or anything close to that......so that's quite an exaggeration, too!

    He said people complain about "a 1/2 a dozen personnel decisions every year".

    The point, I believe, that he was trying to make is that every year, it seems that people get worked up over back of the roster/PS decisions, but rarely have these ever been an issue.
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    Re: Head Scratchers (pertaining to the roster)

    Quote Originally Posted by Benny8444 View Post
    I still feel dixon is an upgrade over TT and could start if Flacco were to go down.

    We may win one or 2 games with TT because teams dont know how to play him but once he is on film he is in trouble. at least with Dixon you have a pocket passer who can also make big plays with his legs
    I like Dixon, but come on. There's a reason he didn't have a job, even though people like Tim Tebow, Brady Quinn, Colt McCoy, Chad Henne and Chris Redman all do.

    And I'm still cracking up about the people who like Painter for some reason. All those INT's didn't bother anybody? How about how bad he sucked for Indy when he played? Good grief. All I can figure from the support for Painter is we have some people who don't watch football when the Ravens aren't on, and their computers can't access football sites other than ravens24x7. The guy completed 54% of his passes last year, threw 6 Tds with 9 Int's. Yeah the team was bad. So... what? Is he going to blossom in the Cam Cameron offense, whereas the Peyton Manning offense holding him back?




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    Quote Originally Posted by B-more Ravor View Post
    T, he didn't say 1/2 of the personnel decision were fucked up or anything close to that......so that's quite an exaggeration, too!

    He said people complain about "a 1/2 a dozen personnel decisions every year".

    The point, I believe, that he was trying to make is that every year, it seems that people get worked up over back of the roster/PS decisions, but rarely have these ever been an issue.
    I remember last year people were going ape shit that we cut Josh Bynes and swore someone was going to claim him the second he was waived.

    Meanwhile, the guy cleared waivers and was unemployed for a while before we brought him back to the PS.




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    Re: Head Scratchers (pertaining to the roster)

    Quote Originally Posted by B-more Ravor View Post
    Well, speaking for myself, I never said they were.

    However, the 3 criticisms the OP presented are off base, IMO, and show a lack of understanding of why those decisions were made. Hence, my response.
    That's fine by me. This is the great thing about a forum like this. We can discuss all these issues.
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    The thing I remember from this time of the year is how short of a stay it is for most of the last players on the roster. The second someone gets nicked up that last guy on the roster gets released to make room for the replacement. Sometimes it happens before the first game. See Danny Gorrer last year. If you are not in the two deep now your spot is tentative at best.




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    Re: Head Scratchers (pertaining to the roster)

    Quote Originally Posted by Benny8444 View Post
    I still feel dixon is an upgrade over TT and could start if Flacco were to go down.

    We may win one or 2 games with TT because teams dont know how to play him but once he is on film he is in trouble. at least with Dixon you have a pocket passer who can also make big plays with his legs
    If Flacco were to get injured, it would be during a game. Tyrod Taylor would finish out that game, and then if the injury to Flacco was lengthy, the Ravens could easily pull Dixon off the practice squad prior to the next game - or go find some ex-QB sitting on a couch somewhere. I don't see much difference here between one being #2 or one being practice squad. If the Ravens lose Flacco, they're screwed anyway.




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    Re: Head Scratchers (pertaining to the roster)

    Quote Originally Posted by Benny8444 View Post
    I still feel dixon is an upgrade over TT and could start if Flacco were to go down.

    We may win one or 2 games with TT because teams dont know how to play him but once he is on film he is in trouble. at least with Dixon you have a pocket passer who can also make big plays with his legs
    I don't disagree, but considering the durability of Joe, I think they are looking to the future more. Taylor just hasn't been around long enough to fully develop. I'm betting they think he WILL be better than Dixon and don't want to lose him.




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    I understand completely about why Kindle made the team - there were many predicting he would simply by default. But that scares me. As a long-time Raven fan, I have NEVER see the Ravens so thin at OLB. During the preseason one of my main goals was to watch him to see if he maybe was going to break out this year. OMG, did he look bad. Not only could he not beat a 3rd string tackle 1-on-1, but he seemed to be lost and never running faster than half speed. I was crushed to see it.

    Did anyone see anything good from Kindle? I certainly didn't focus on him every snap he was in. I'm hoping I'm wrong....




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