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    Re: Ravens Rainey destined for practice squad?



    Rainey has ZERO (repeat ZERO) chance of making all the way through to the Raven's practice squad - just like TUCKER.

    So they either make the 53 or they are gone forever. The Ravens are not that stupid!




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    Re: Ravens Rainey destined for practice squad?

    Rainey right now is one of the main candidates (along with Streeter/Thompson and Chykie/Gorrer/OBrown/Considine) to come down with the dreaded IJSETI* virus.

    The thing with Rainey is that much as we love the kid's play, he doesn't offer much in the way of versatility (that isn't already covered) or change of pace. He's exactly the kind of guy you want on the PS as the standby replacement part for #27, but he's not likely to function all that well outside of Cam's offensive scheme, & we know there are damn few teams that run that scheme right now.

    My guess is they IR him if at all justified; failing that, try & sneak him onto the PS; failing that, grit their teeth & flip a coin.

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    Re: Ravens Rainey destined for practice squad?

    Mr. Rainey has Darren Sproles written all over him. He ain't clearin' waivers.
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    Re: Ravens Rainey destined for practice squad?

    Comon now, two pre season games, lets not try and compare him to Darren Sproles just yet.

    If it was up to me I'd probably carry 4 RB's...

    1. Ray Rice
    2. Bernard Pierce (Stretch and zone runs, some short distance stuff)
    3. Damien Berry (Power back, for short yardage)
    4. Bobby Rainy (Can add depth as a KR/PR, as well as adding another dimension next to Rice as a receiving back)

    Anthony Allen, I'd give him another chance on the PS.

    I'd carry 4 safeties, and this should allow us to keep our usual depth else where. I'd cut Considine, and carry Thompson, and Omar Brown, and put Cook on the PS.




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    Re: Ravens Rainey destined for practice squad?

    Quote Originally Posted by TL24x7 View Post
    Bobby Rainey has captured the attention of coaches during training camp and the hearts of many fans after his performance in Atlanta against the Falcons. Most have quickly (and justifiably so) labeled him a poor man’s Ray Rice. Yet it’s that comparison and his similar stature and style to the Ravens’ Pro Bowl tailback that may keep Rainey off the 53-man squad.

    Think about how the Ravens have used their No. 2 back in recent years. That back, whether it was Willis McGahee or Ricky Williams has been a more physical player and one who could be more productive in short yardage situations and one who was efficient in pass protection. Moreover their styles were different – a true change of pace.

    But Rainey can’t be that because of the similarities to Rice. Not only that he is a very below average blocker in pass pro.

    Adding to the uphill battle for Rainey is that other than being a return specialist (and the Ravens are fairly well spoken for in that department) the former Western Kentucky Hilltopper provides little value to special teams. Backup running backs, like tight ends, linebackers and members of the secondary are often looked upon to provide special teams competencies.

    So where does this leave Rainey?

    On the practice squad, developing and waiting for his chance.

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    I don't think so, we have Leach for that short yardage grunt, but could you imagine a double rb formation with Ray and Rainey.....The slightest lean one way or the other and one of them are gone....




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    Re: Ravens Rainey destined for practice squad?

    No way in hell he makes it to the practice squad. The Steelers would take him in a heartbeat.




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    I do like Damien Berry. He did well last offseason and was impressive against Detroit.

    This shows the nature of the RB position.

    If Rainey shows worth as KR/PR then he has to stay on 53.

    Thus a 53 distribution of:

    2 QBs, 5 RB. 3 TE. 6 WR. 8 OL.
    7 DL. 9 LB. 6 CB. S 4.
    3 ST specialists.




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    Re: Ravens Rainey destined for practice squad?

    He'll never make it as far as the Steelers - he'll be long gone by then.



    Quote Originally Posted by HKusp View Post
    No way in hell he makes it to the practice squad. The Steelers would take him in a heartbeat.




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    Re: Ravens Rainey destined for practice squad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
    Exactly! Folks seem to think that we can put whoever we want on the PS -- but they forget that they have to clear waivers first. If I am a team needing an RB (if MJD holds out until the regular season, think Jacksonville), I would jump on Rainey. I think folks like Streeter, Tucker, Omar Brown are more likely PS candidates.
    Didn't we draft another Ray Rice clone and lose him -- Cedric Peerman?




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Comon now, two pre season games, lets not try and compare him to Darren Sproles just yet.

    If it was up to me I'd probably carry 4 RB's...

    1. Ray Rice
    2. Bernard Pierce (Stretch and zone runs, some short distance stuff)
    3. Damien Berry (Power back, for short yardage)
    4. Bobby Rainy (Can add depth as a KR/PR, as well as adding another dimension next to Rice as a receiving back)

    Anthony Allen, I'd give him another chance on the PS.

    I'd carry 4 safeties, and this should allow us to keep our usual depth else where. I'd cut Considine, and carry Thompson, and Omar Brown, and put Cook on the PS.
    Thats fine but we carried 4 last year, so thats not clearing room. I like the idea of 4 rbs but hed have to win the kr/pr because hes not going to be a gunner at his size more than likely. He really needs to contribute on STs. Udfa should just know that their way on the team is ST.

    Id assume 8 lbs lewis mcclain ellerbe kruger upshaw mccellan kindle and ayanbadejo. Then you still have to worry who gets cut when suggs comes back because unless theres an IR more than likely its rainey anyway.
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    Re: Ravens Rainey destined for practice squad?

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    Thats fine but we carried 4 last year, so thats not clearing room. I like the idea of 4 rbs but hed have to win the kr/pr because hes not going to be a gunner at his size more than likely. He really needs to contribute on STs. Udfa should just know that their way on the team is ST.

    Id assume 8 lbs lewis mcclain ellerbe kruger upshaw mccellan kindle and ayanbadejo. Then you still have to worry who gets cut when suggs comes back because unless theres an IR more than likely its rainey anyway.
    Didn't we carry 5 safeties last year? Reed, Pollard, Zibbi, Haruki, and Cook? Or was Cook on the PS/IR?




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    I just dont get how people think its a forgone conclusion he wont get thru waivers, look at even the worst RB situation's in the league and you'll find talented backs. Find me any RB situation in the league and you'll find at least 3 backs better or comparable to Rainey. And thats not to discredit Rainey, im a fan, but this notion that the Ravens HAVE to keep him is just off base imo




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Didn't we carry 5 safeties last year? Reed, Pollard, Zibbi, Haruki, and Cook? Or was Cook on the PS/IR?
    I was going by week 1 roster. Cook actually played 8 weeks for the jets last year, then we apparently picked him up for the last 5. I thought he was on PS too.

    Late editions are little different since injuries occur. The last 1-3 guys may make the team but that doesnt mean we wont cut them to add a player when needed either. Say STs struggles and rainey isnt offering good coverage ability. I could see them cutting him just to add another LB thats good at ST.
    -JAB




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    Re: Ravens Rainey destined for practice squad?

    Detroit and New York are two teams that could use him now. Cincinnati could use him as a change of pace back to pair with Green-Ellis. If I am not mistaken, Pittsburgh's Rainey is hurt. Hell, Belichick might snatch him up just for kicks. He obviously isn't satisfied with the level of talent that offense has. Rainey is much like Sproles in his style. You don't think that Philip Rivers has missed Sproles. He was pissed when he left.

    You guys keep thinking that they can stash these guys. It only takes one, and you are all left admitting that's why you're not the GM.
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    Re: Ravens Rainey destined for practice squad?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    Detroit and New York are two teams that could use him now. Cincinnati could use him as a change of pace back to pair with Green-Ellis. If I am not mistaken, Pittsburgh's Rainey is hurt. Hell, Belichick might snatch him up just for kicks. He obviously isn't satisfied with the level of talent that offense has. Rainey is much like Sproles in his style. You don't think that Philip Rivers has missed Sproles. He was pissed when he left.

    You guys keep thinking that they can stash these guys. It only takes one, and you are all left admitting that's why you're not the GM.
    Detroit has Kevin Smith, Leshoure getting ready to suit up in preseason, Stephon Green is a solid back fresh of that long TD run vs. us, Keiland Williams is a solid back and eventually they'll get Jahvid Best back. If they do go after a back its much more likely they go after a Ryan Grant then Bobby Rainey.

    Cincy has BJGE, Bernard Scott and Brian Leonard....all better backs then Rainey, they also drafted Dan Herron late and still have Cedric Peerman.

    Pats have Ridley, Vereen, Woodhead and just signed Jeff Demps who will play RB there.

    The Jets have Shonn Green, Bilal Powell, Joe Mcknight as well as the back from Baylor they drafted late

    The Giants have Bradshaw, David Wilson, Ware looks like he'll be the goaline back. They also have Scott from Maryland

    Im glad someone mentioned teams, it goes to show everyone has good backs, young backs they are excited about developing, etc. It's not a slam dunk that Rainey couldnt clear waivers.




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