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    Re: Mike Wallace to Report to Steelers this weekend



    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    The difference is that Jones-Drew can afford the fines, because he's been paid in the past.
    $30K a day and he's already missed 3 weeks, and 1 1/7th of his paycheck for every game missed. That's about $1M if he misses one game. No, he cannot afford it. His agent should call Jax and start the discussion of 'if I get him into camp will you agree to drop the fines?'
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    Re: Mike Wallace to Report to Steelers this weekend

    I think Ross Tucker on NFL Network said MJD would be losing something like 250K per week once the season starts.

    I don't care how much you've got in the bank, 250K per week is pretty tough to swallow passing up.




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    Re: Mike Wallace to Report to Steelers this weekend

    Can they fine Wallace even though he has not signed his tender?




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    Re: Mike Wallace to Report to Steelers this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by bensmotorcyclehelmt View Post
    No money for a Wallace deal this year. Even less since Brown's deal.
    Wallace wanted 11.5M/yr and Steelers offered him 10M/yr for 5 yrs.
    Say what you will about the stillers, but they don't mess around with troublemaking WRs.
    How is Wallace a troublemaking WR? Because he didn't accept a RFA offer? If he didn't think it was his fair market value, it's well within his right to hold out. He doesn't have a criminal history, and I don't recall him making any disparaging remarks about the team.

    If this happened with a player on the ravens, I wouldn't be happy, but I also would understand where the player is coming from. He played out his contract and would like to get a new contract at the value he believes himself to be worth. It also doesn't help that this is the last year of RFAs as we know it, as all drafted players now sign 4 years deals, after which they are UFAs.




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    Re: Mike Wallace to Report to Steelers this weekend

    I guess if they cant fine him its just for every game missed he loses 1/16th of his tender for not playing since he did not earn the money.

    I dont think they can fine him for skipping camp or showing up late.

    I think 5 year 10mil was fair but they cant even pay that now. I think wallace would have taken 10mil a year but he wanted it longer than 5 years with more guaranteed money.

    He has not made much money in his career so he cannot afford to skip work and not get a pay check.




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    Re: Mike Wallace to Report to Steelers this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by NCCRavensFan View Post
    How is Wallace a troublemaking WR? Because he didn't accept a RFA offer? If he didn't think it was his fair market value, it's well within his right to hold out. He doesn't have a criminal history, and I don't recall him making any disparaging remarks about the team.

    If this happened with a player on the ravens, I wouldn't be happy, but I also would understand where the player is coming from. He played out his contract and would like to get a new contract at the value he believes himself to be worth. It also doesn't help that this is the last year of RFAs as we know it, as all drafted players now sign 4 years deals, after which they are UFAs.
    He is a total head case and locker room problem. He even caused stirs about this. Its one thing to hold out its another to be a head case and cause stirs.

    OT: I think MJD needs to get his ass to camp he is doing no one good and just pissing off a fanbase and a team. Its not like he is making bad money, he just saw all these RBs get signed and he want a peice before he starts to hit his twilight. but he is not a mess in the locker room or causing a stir. If I am Jax trade him, they need the picks.




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    Re: Mike Wallace to Report to Steelers this weekend

    2 things here.

    He can appear at camp not sign tender and have 2 weeks to workout longterm deal.

    Or he can sign tender have 2 weeks to workout longterm deal and sit himself til week 10.

    He won't play a game until he gets longterm deal before season. He won't sign tender and play, Steelers won't negotiate until he SHOWS up at camp.

    Nothing has changed in reality he wants what he thinks he's worth and if he doesn't get it will only suit
    Up for 6 games to accrue a season.




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    Re: Mike Wallace to Report to Steelers this weekend

    How is Wallace a headcase or locker room problem, I may have conveniently forgotten his transgressions but I don't recall him having any prior issues with the steelers. If you're calling him a headcase because he won't show up to camp, he not under contract so until he signs the offer sheet he has no obligation to be there. The steelers are trying to get an extra year of service out of him on the cheap because they can't afford to pay him and he knows it. Plus the steelers are notorious for dumping players once their guaranteed money has been payed, so he may of rejected that 5 year $50 million contract because it was back-loaded with <$20 million guaranteed. We really don't know what the steelers offered him, to it's unfair to say he was given a fair deal.

    OT: I agree that MJD holding out is stupid. He has a FMV contract, and is only hurting himself right now.




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    Re: Mike Wallace to Report to Steelers this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by NCCRavensFan View Post
    How is Wallace a troublemaking WR? Because he didn't accept a RFA offer? If he didn't think it was his fair market value, it's well within his right to hold out.
    It is well within his right. And with that move, he may have stamped his ticket out of Pittsburgh.

    Holding out is a distraction to the team. And he won't be up to speed on a new offense if he ever decides to show up. So I do consider it troublemaking. I certainly wouldn;t consider it "trying to better the team," would you?

    And the steelers are moving on without him. So much so that they went as far as to sign his backup, who was not in a contract year, to a long-term deal.




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    Re: Mike Wallace to Report to Steelers this weekend

    I think it's fair to say that his ticket out of Pittsburgh was stamped well before now. Everyone knew that they had to make a choice between he and Brown, and that the choice would be Brown. The surprise was how quickly they were able to sign Brown. If Brown had another season like he did last year, or improved on his play from last year, he would have likely gained more in FA. However, he decided to take his pay now. Nevertheless, it was never really in doubt that Wallace's days as a Steeler were numbered.
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    Re: Mike Wallace to Report to Steelers this weekend

    Anybody who labels Mike Wallace as a "head case" and a "locker room cancer" really need to get their facts straight, he's never been reported to have any issues regarding that. Is he a bit stupid, and a bit of an idiot with what he comes out with in the media, or how much money he wants? Yes, I'd say he isn't the brightest of guys, but he is from what I've seen a very hard working guy who is obviously really talented.

    If anyone would like to prove me wrong by supplying some links of known locker room issues, feel free to do so. But it just seems that some of you think he's such a head case, because he's in fact a Pittsburgh Steeler. Admit it, he is just a damn good player, and he happens to play for the team we all hate, who cares, he wont be for much longer anyway. There is no need to hate a player because he plays for the team who decided to draft him, not unless it's a total prick like Heinz Ward or Ryan Clark who do more talking than playing on the field.

    And btw, everyone is free to hold out if they wish. Would Ray Rice had held out had he not got signed? Nobody know's that for sure, but if he did, that's not a reason to hate the guy, because he's obviously done a lot for the community, and is a great team player, but this is business, and if your playing at a high level for a low amount of money compared to what other players who may not even be as good as you are getting, they are perfectly in their rights to demand that money. Same for Terrell Suggs. Is Suggs a bad team mate, and a locker room cancer? He is just about as far away as you can get from a locker room cancer, yet he was another player who held out.




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    Re: Mike Wallace to Report to Steelers this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Anybody who labels Mike Wallace as a "head case" and a "locker room cancer" really need to get their facts straight, he's never been reported to have any issues regarding that. Is he a bit stupid, and a bit of an idiot with what he comes out with in the media, or how much money he wants? Yes, I'd say he isn't the brightest of guys, but he is from what I've seen a very hard working guy who is obviously really talented.
    Im not the biggest Wallace supporter. I dont think hes as good as some say, or at least as complete at WR regardless that hes a Steeler. although he is one of the best at taking the top off a D. this thought that hes a head case or troublemaker just needs to be dropped. hes neither. His "head case" issues are that he wants paid as well as he can in a career thats typically pretty short. I dont blame him, i dont agree with him that hes worth Fitz money, but i dont blame him for trying to get as much as he can.
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    Re: Mike Wallace to Report to Steelers this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Boulderraven View Post
    2 things here.

    He can appear at camp not sign tender and have 2 weeks to workout longterm deal.

    Or he can sign tender have 2 weeks to workout longterm deal and sit himself til week 10.

    He won't play a game until he gets longterm deal before season. He won't sign tender and play, Steelers won't negotiate until he SHOWS up at camp.

    Nothing has changed in reality he wants what he thinks he's worth and if he doesn't get it will only suit
    Up for 6 games to accrue a season.
    So if he does not sign his tender by the time the season starts what happens?

    Also, if he does sign his tender and does not suit for for 6 games does that make him a RFA again next year?

    Bottom line is the Steelers cant pay him what he wants or even what brown got so he better play and show his worth so he can get paid else where, but i do see him sitting out till the last 6 games even if he does show up. He wont risk an injury playing under the RFA tender. He is just showing up to try to get a deal he wont get.




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    Re: Mike Wallace to Report to Steelers this weekend

    It almost like why show up now???? its not like you are getting the money you want. My guess is he shows up, finds out he wont be getting the money he wants then leaves till week 11.

    The only reason he is showing up is to try to get a deal. Would not be surprised to see a trade but only if he lowers his demands.




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    Re: Mike Wallace to Report to Steelers this weekend

    Can Wallace get what he wants salary wise considering the steelers cap situation?
    Or would it take some seriosu restructuring?




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