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    Re: The Backup QB Situation ...



    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    It's a non issue because if Flacco goes, the season is toast anyway.
    I don't follow your logic. Tyrod is obviously not NFL-calibre and Painter, at best, may be able to keep the team in the game for a few series. The season, however, will not be "toast" if the front office admits that neither guy could carry the club if Flacco becomes injured, and moves out to get a decent #2. There is definitely better talent out there than Taylor or Painter.

    Listed above: McNabb, Josh Johnson, Tarvaris Jackson, Matt Moore, Kevin Kolb, Vince Young/Tyler Thigpen - any one of these guys stands head & shoulders over Painter and (literally) over Taylor. The season won't be "toast", but Oz may need to scratch up an extra $1/2 million to $1 million to get there.
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    Re: The Backup QB Situation ...

    Matt Moore could easily lead this team to the play offs. He did pretty damn well on a average Miami Dolphins team last season, he almost saved the season for them. If Matt Moore is cut, I would love to see Moore back Flacco up this year.

    This is why I agree with what the Redskins did in the draft, they got a talented QB in the 4th round, who IMO can eventually be a good starter for a team. He gives the Redskins a lot of insurance if RG3 were to go down, which lets face it, could well happen at any given time because of the type of QB RG3 is. I think next year a back up QB may need to be addressed in the 4th or 5th round, we need a guy like TJ Yates who can step in if Flacco were to go down.




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    This offense works with a guy who plays like Joe - tall, big arm, who stands in the pocket.

    Taylor is not that guy - not that kind of quarterback.

    Painter is more like Flacco - and because of that he will make the team. We have yet to see Painter "run" with the first team offense. So far, with the 2nd and 3rd string guys he's put up 24 points on the board (if you count both games) in less than 60 minutes of football. At least with Painter the Ravens have a chance if Joe goes down. If its Tyrod their chances approach ZERO quickly.




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    TT is not an NFL QB. He missed several throws last night and had several passes batted down. He has to lob the ball to the running backs out the back field which will get a running back killed. He seems to want to run the ball more than he wants to throw it. Wonder what is rushing yards are vs his passing yards

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacknpurplepain View Post
    TT is not an NFL QB. He missed several throws last night and had several passes batted down. He has to lob the ball to the running backs out the back field which will get a running back killed. He seems to want to run the ball more than he wants to throw it. Wonder what is rushing yards are vs his passing yards

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    Buffalo reporting that Vince Young is winning the backup spot there which would make Tyler Thygpen odd man out. He would be an upgrade over TTaylor or Painter
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    After 2 exhibitions, it doesn't look good for Taylor. He really stunk out the joint against the Lions, worse than his Falcons game. One of Tony's writers agrees:

    Curtis Painter is making a strong case to be Joe Flacco's primary backup

    At this point, all indications seem to point to Painter as being the No. 2 on the depth chart. Painter has played well in the preseason

    I'd sure like to see Taylor kept on the Ravens payroll in some capacity due to his potential and cheap cap hit, but not at the cost of risking the the season by dropping Painter. Better yet, hopefully our FO goes out to get a Matt Moore or Vince Young when one of these guys inevitably gets cut.

    The upcoming Jags game should be an interesting contest between these two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    McNabb still thinks he's the shit, thus wants more money.

    And if Flacco went down we'd be fucked anyway.

    This is a non-issue.
    This is my thoughts. Hasselbeck would be worthwhile if hes relrased but im not sure its worth carrying 3 qbs. End of the day nobody is available that can carry us if flacco misses a lot of time.
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    Re: The Backup QB Situation ...

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    This is my thoughts. Hasselbeck would be worthwhile if hes relrased but im not sure its worth carrying 3 qbs. End of the day nobody is available that can carry us if flacco misses a lot of time.
    I honestly believe a guy like Matt Hassleback could at least get us to the play offs, same for Matt Moore, maybe not the SB, but we have enough pieces to get there with a solid vet at QB. The game plan would be ultra conservative and simple, it would just completely go through Ray Rice, and all Hassleback or Moore would have to do is manage the game well enough. They can probably do that. Anyway, I really don't want to think about Flacco getting hurt, it is just not in my mind at all, I know it could happen, but lets just hope it doesn't happen.




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    I can't see TN releasing Hasslebeck and I don't see any scenario that has VY here (thankfully)
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    Re: The Backup QB Situation ...

    I really hope that the Ravens are thinking more like the Patriots when Brady went down or the Steelers when Ben was suspended than "the season is done if Joe goes down." They may not have had the best option when Jamal went down for the season in 2001, but they still made it to the playoffs and a win.
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    Re: The Backup QB Situation ...

    So...........

    Colts: Super Bowl contender. Manning goes down. Painter plays. Team implodes. Coach and GM are fired. Total franchise annihilation.

    Ravens: Super Bowl contender. Flacco goes down. Painter plays. Team wins it all!

    Not sure I'm seeing that.

    Only thing Painter has in common with Flacco as a QB is he's right handed.

    That said, Taylor hasn't shown enough to prove that he can compete either.

    Maybe a Matt Moore, somebody like that, shakes loose later on. Several of the guys on the list posted above would cost more than the Ravens want to pay, but a few could fit under the cap.
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    The 2011 Colts team, ignoring the QB position, was absolutely terrible, whereas the 2012 Ravens team, ignoring the QB position, is still very good.

    There is no way we implode like last year's Colts if Painter were forced to play. That said, there is also no way we "win it all with Painter" (or Moore for that matter, or anyone "like" Moore, imo).

    I agree we should be watching other teams' cuts to see if a better option becomes available.




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    Re: The Backup QB Situation ...

    Quote Originally Posted by NC Raven View Post
    Colts: Super Bowl contender. Manning goes down. Painter plays. Team implodes. Coach and GM are fired. Total franchise annihilation.

    Ravens: Super Bowl contender. Flacco goes down. Painter plays. Team wins it all!
    Um, nobody said this. At least four posters including myself are simply saying that Painter might let us break even for a few series or even a couple games if Joe were to go down.

    Painter is not a good starter but he is at least an NFL-caliber QB, be it second or third string. Taylor sometimes can barely complete a pass.




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