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  1. #16

    Re: Osemele will start opening game, McKinnie in danger to make roster



    Nothing surprises me in the NFL anymore but this...this would surprise me. To me McKinnie is one of the major keys to the season. Not because he is great, he is average at LT (or at least was last year) but with him at LT the rest of the guys can play at their natural positions on the line. Without McKinnie we will be playing musical chairs on the line with guys "out of their most effective position" and will also be losing depth. I am optimistic about this season and think we have the pieces in place, but if we cut McKinnie I think I will start to have my first moments of worry. Here's to hope McKinnie steps up, keeps his weight under control, doesn't piss the coaches off, and wants to help this team win (God knows he needs the money with all the crap he has going on).




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    Re: Osemele will start opening game, McKinnie in danger to make roster

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Reed View Post
    This guy is 100% legit. His name is Jeff Risdon and is a writer for a sports website. I wont post the site since maybe the admins dont like links to other websites.
    With sites like BleacherReport, Yardbarker, and probably a dozen more just like them, anyone can write for a "sports website" these days. Seriously. Anyone. Not saying he's right or wrong (although frankly, I'd be shocked if he was right), but just because he's got a few articles published on the web doesn't make him "100% legit".

    FWIW - His self-written bio, from nflsfuture.com. Decide for yourselves:

    JEFF RISDON (Lead Writer)
    "Jeff graduated with a degree in History from Ohio University in 1996, with a senior thesis “Why the USFL Failed”. My football background includes a year with a national scouting service and two years as a contracted draft consultant for an NFL team. I have covered the NFL and the NFL Draft for RealGM.com since 2004 and have been a featured guest on numerous radio programs around the country. My work has been cited on numerous major sports websites and published in The Sporting News and several newspapers. I have also worked as a high school football official. Originally from the Cleveland area, I now reside in Houston with my wife and two children. I am an avid volleyball player and a long-suffering Detroit Lions fan."
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    Re: Osemele will start opening game, McKinnie in danger to make roster

    It is at least arguable that the reshuffling didn't start with McKinnie returning as the first-team LT, but ended with that. I.e.:

    Williams needs a couple of days off to reduce the swelling in his ankle. KO was penciled in at LG when he was drafted, so naturally he takes over there. Now you need a RT, and Reid is still not practicing, so Oher moves back there, leaving a hole at LT which McKinnie is promoted to fill.

    IOW McKinnie might not have returned to the first team on the strength of his play, but only because the best options at LG and RT once Williams had to sit left an opening at LT. We wont know for sure until Williams returns to full practice.




  4. #19

    Re: Osemele will start opening game, McKinnie in danger to make roster

    Osemele will start opening game, McKinnie in danger to make roster
    Osemele will not start the opening game, McKinnie is in no danger to make roster.

    p.s.: I don't need unnamed sources to state that!
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    Ozzie isn't talking. All roster moves at this point are pure speculation.
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    Re: Osemele will start opening game, McKinnie in danger to make roster

    Sure. If they were to cut him they wouldn't waste giving him first team reps.

    Next time post your source.




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    Re: Osemele will start opening game, McKinnie in danger to make roster

    Quote Originally Posted by Dade View Post
    Sure. If they were to cut him they wouldn't waste giving him first team reps.

    Next time post your source.

    Exactamundo. As a matter of fact, if Ozzie was really going to cut him I doubt he would have made it past a couple of days after showing up late to camp. They would have wanted to either make another FA move quickly or get some of the young linemen some additional reps.




  8. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Reed View Post
    This guy is 100% legit. His name is Jeff Risdon and is a writer for a sports website. I wont post the site since maybe the admins dont like links to other websites.
    I could see them possibly going with Osemele at right tackle, but no way in hell does Oher start on the left side. If that's the case, then the Ravens are mailing in the season. This will be Oher's last training camp with the Ravens and, hopefully, he gets cut before the season starts. Its time the front office admitted that they made a huge mistake drafting that garbage.




  9. #24

    Re: Osemele will start opening game, McKinnie in danger to make roster

    Calling BS on this report. McKinnie is at 357 20lbs less than same point last year. McKinnie had a pretty decent year, I expect the same.




  10. #25

    Re: Osemele will start opening game, McKinnie in danger to make roster

    Quote Originally Posted by steelerhater View Post
    I could see them possibly going with Osemele at right tackle, but no way in hell does Oher start on the left side. If that's the case, then the Ravens are mailing in the season. This will be Oher's last training camp with the Ravens and, hopefully, he gets cut before the season starts. Its time the front office admitted that they made a huge mistake drafting that garbage.
    Not going to happen. Oher will be here - and starting - this year and next.

    I can understand people being disappointed with Oher, but this is a bit over the top.
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  11. #26

    Re: Osemele will start opening game, McKinnie in danger to make roster

    Quote Originally Posted by B-more Ravor View Post
    Not going to happen. Oher will be here - and starting - this year and next.

    I can understand people being disappointed with Oher, but this is a bit over the top.
    Why? He's terrible, especially on the left side. Two plays stood out to me in the first quarter of Thursday night's game. First of all, he totally wiffed on a block that let a defender go untouched and his Ray rice for a loss. Secondly, on another play, he let abraham bull rush him into the pocket where flacco had to step up (almost before his feet were even planted) and get sacked. On yet another play, they overloaded the left side and even had Rice on the left side of the backfield apparently to give Oher help. Most of the other plays in that quarter seemed to go to the right side. It appeared to me that the Ravens had no confidence in him, so they ran plays where he wouldn't be a factor.




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    Re: Osemele will start opening game, McKinnie in danger to make roster

    I share steel hater's sentiment and everyone knows I've been saying this
    since Day 1, but Ravor is right.

    Oz will never admit this huge mistake. Never.

    He'll give him a big signing bonus before he cuts him.


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    Re: Osemele will start opening game, McKinnie in danger to make roster

    Quote Originally Posted by steelerhater View Post
    Why? He's terrible, especially on the left side. Two plays stood out to me in the first quarter of Thursday night's game. First of all, he totally wiffed on a block that let a defender go untouched and his Ray rice for a loss. Secondly, on another play, he let abraham bull rush him into the pocket where flacco had to step up (almost before his feet were even planted) and get sacked. On yet another play, they overloaded the left side and even had Rice on the left side of the backfield apparently to give Oher help. Most of the other plays in that quarter seemed to go to the right side. It appeared to me that the Ravens had no confidence in him, so they ran plays where he wouldn't be a factor.
    You do realise that any tackle in this league can get ball rushed from time to time, Jake Long, and Joe Thomas make mistakes too. It's a very very hard position to play no matter how big or athletic you are. Apart from QB, it's arguably the hardest position in the game. Michael Oher is no where near as bad as what you are saying he is, for starters when he started in 2010 on the left side, sure he wasn't great, he looked lost at times. However, McKinnie, who a lot of you all seem to think is still a premium tackle in this league, gave up more sacks and just as many pressures in 2011 that Oher gave up in 2010. Our season would be far from over if Oher was to be named the starting LT, which he wont be, McKinnie is going to start his final year as a Raven. Next year we are likely to either invest a first round pick on a big athletic left tackle, or don't be surprised to see Oher as next years LT, with Reid or Osemele on the right side.

    I thought he had a pretty decent game against the Falcons. He was lined up against one of the better pass rushers in the league, and apart from one or two mistakes, he looked pretty good.




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    Re: Osemele will start opening game, McKinnie in danger to make roster

    I'm not the biggest Oher fan but it's because of the penalties primarily. He's been pretty solid and a constant starter so it's hard to say he hasn't lived up. Will he be here after next year? Not if another team over pays him.
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  15. #30

    Re: Osemele will start opening game, McKinnie in danger to make roster

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I thought he had a pretty decent game against the Falcons. He was lined up against one of the better pass rushers in the league, and apart from one or two mistakes, he looked pretty good.
    i dont think McKinnie is a premier LT, just better than Oher (sacks/pressure per attempt were less as we threw more in 2011), but even i admit he didnt look bad against ATL. if there was a bright spot along the line it was mostly he and KO.
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