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Thread: Referee Lockout (Merged)
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08-11-2012, 01:37 PM #13
Re: The REAL concern from Thursday...
The hits on Flacco constitutes an immediate 15 yard penalty because when a QB slides you can only 'touch' him but in essence he's already down when he begins his slide.
'To protect himself from violent hits by opponents attempting to tackle him, the quarterback may choose to slide to the ground feet-first. This slide is interpreted as intentionally downing the ball, and opponents may then be penalized for hitting him.'
Drew Brees almost got his knee blown out on a low hit where the defender fell to the ground, looked up and then dove at Brees knees. The hit against Lefty was the worse one to date.
Players are taking liberties to see what they can get away with. With the Ravens playing Detroit they need to double, cut or even hold Suh because I can see that bastard pile driving Flacco into the turf and then claiming he thought he had him around the waist.
There are some posters (who never played the game BTW) that have said in the past 'Its football not badminton so grow a pair!' but what they fail to realize is if you don't police the game players will take 'kill' shots and potentially end careers.
The replacement refs are not doing their jobs.
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08-11-2012, 01:49 PM #14
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Re: The REAL concern from Thursday...
Could you go into detail about what exactly the "cheap ass owners" are offering the refs?
Oh you don't know? How about that.
Is it a possibility that the REFS are the ones being unreasonable? Of course it is, so to place blame on one side or the other is pretty foolish.
The blame probably lies somewhere in the middle, but feel free to just speculate and place blame on one side when you have no clue what is going on in negotiations. For all we know the refs could want double their salary and benefits. Is that reasonable? Who is at fault then?
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08-11-2012, 04:09 PM #16Hall Of Fame Poster
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08-11-2012, 04:19 PM #17Legendary RSR Poster
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If everyone gets shitty refs, where's the unfairness?
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08-11-2012, 04:36 PM #20Steve Flacco, Apparently
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The unfairness comes from the fact that as much as people like to bitch about the regular refs, they are actually pretty consistent and have high degrees of accuracy in their calls. These jokers they've trotted out are wildly inconsistent and don't call the game with nearly the same reliability as the regulars.
My motto was always to keep swinging. Whether I was in a slump or feeling badly or having trouble off the field, the only thing to do was keep swinging. -Hank Aaron
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08-11-2012, 05:37 PM #21Legendary RSR Poster
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Perhaps. But the Arizona gaffes aside, I didn't see any huge drop off in terms of quality.
I'm waiting this one out to see if it's really that much of an impact. If this lock out means that 2-3 seasons down the road we have improved quality, I'm ok with a little growing pains.
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08-11-2012, 08:19 PM #22Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: The REAL concern from Thursday...
You're kidding yourself if you honestly think the NFL refs aren't some of the best officials in any sport on the planet. Officiating is ridiculously difficult both because a) you have to watch for small details in a large area of responsibility and b) at least 50% of people are going to hate you at any given time, regardless of whether you were correct or not. I used to ref under-18 rec league sports and I stopped because of how insane the fans (i.e. parents) were. If anything, the NFL rule book is responsible for 50%+ of officiating issues in the league today, the regular refs are not the problem.
Also, it is ridiculous that the biggest sport in America is the only major sport without full-time, year-round referees.
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08-11-2012, 09:31 PM #23Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: The REAL concern from Thursday...
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I didn't get a chance to see the game due to the plethora of inneresting channel offerings that excluded the Ravens down here in the Greater Hickory Metropolitan Area, but I see a few posts talking about how Flacco got nailed when he was on the ground. To provide one answer to your question, it's possible that we could see some very untimely injuries around the league to their "star" products if some of the officials are not up to the task. That being said, however, any thoughts on my response below to mf-42?
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I agree completely. Why does a nearly $10 BILLION per year business tighten their sphincter(s) on such a critical element of their product? And by one report, it's a difference of about $16 million over a 5 year span. Something just doesn't smell right...
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