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    Re: Draft stuff...Tyrann Mathieu



    he has no choice but to go to a small school for a year and try to keep his nose clean. He's not the first...
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    Re: Draft stuff...Tyrann Mathieu

    As a LSU fan I am beyond pissed at this guy. This team is in the hunt again for a National Championship. Big player on a big team would give him a good chance at big NFL money. Can't believe he would screw that up.
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    Re: Draft stuff...Tyrann Mathieu

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    As already pointed out here by Arnie, I'd probably take him in the second round as a FS, definitely not worth a first rounder IMO with his character issues.
    I hope we consider him in the 2nd round. I know he has character issues, but dam can this kid play. He really could be the next "Reed" type ball hawk in CF.




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    Re: Draft stuff...Tyrann Mathieu

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscull View Post
    I hope we consider him in the 2nd round. I know he has character issues, but dam can this kid play. He really could be the next "Reed" type ball hawk in CF.
    He definitely has those elite ball skills, and can run around the field and create general havoc.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    You aren't going to get an admission from the school or Mathieu probably, but all accounts are weed. The synthetic "spice" weed to be specific.

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    Isn't spice entirely legal?

    And he's still easily a first round pick, he would have had a shot at top 5... He's a better overall player then Morris Claiborne was...




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    Re: Draft stuff...Tyrann Mathieu

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Isn't spice entirely legal?

    And he's still easily a first round pick, he would have had a shot at top 5... He's a better overall player then Morris Claiborne was...
    In some states it is; however, it is probably a banned substance on their team (Hence violating team policy).




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    Re: Draft stuff...Tyrann Mathieu

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    As a LSU fan I am beyond pissed at this guy. This team is in the hunt again for a National Championship. Big player on a big team would give him a good chance at big NFL money. Can't believe he would screw that up.
    You seem surprised GOTA.
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    Re: Draft stuff...Tyrann Mathieu

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    As a LSU fan I am beyond pissed at this guy. This team is in the hunt again for a National Championship. Big player on a big team would give him a good chance at big NFL money. Can't believe he would screw that up.
    As an LSU fan is it true that hes not very good in coverage, and likely will be a late rounder for his return skills BEFORE this incident? I heard one or two scouts say they just arent impressed with his skills but love his athletic ability and instincts. I believe they said 4th at the earliest iirc.
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    Re: Draft stuff...Tyrann Mathieu

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Isn't spice entirely legal?

    And he's still easily a first round pick, he would have had a shot at top 5... He's a better overall player then Morris Claiborne was...
    It is synthetic marijuana, and on the NFL's ( and NCAA) banned list. Doesn't matter if it is "legal" or not. There are lots of legal things you can buy that are on the list.




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    Re: Draft stuff...Tyrann Mathieu

    There was a good film breakdown on him last year. He gets away with a ton of gambling because there's always another guy there to make the hit. He doesn't have to play sound, fundamental wrap-up defense, so he gets more "stats."

    Left unanswered was whether he could adjust his game to take care of his assignment without help in an environment (NFL) where he won't have the talent disparity he enjoys most Saturdays at the college level.

    He might, he might not. But the film breakdown showed a ton of INT's, PD's, FF's, all in situations where he was one of 2-3 guys converging on the receiver, and was free to try and jump the route or go for the big hit, knowing that somebody was always right there to clean up -- which frequently they had to.

    He's a good football player, but he reminds me of Macho Harris -- a great Hokie, but not suited to the NFL. A lot of pre-draft nonsense about being a late first/early second. Nearly declared early then withdrew it.... wound up barely making the Eagles in 09 and now out of the league. Right now that's about what I see with Mathieu -- a really good, really talented football player who at least right now, is not a good fit for the NFL game.




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    Re: Draft stuff...Tyrann Mathieu

    Quote Originally Posted by NC Raven View Post
    There was a good film breakdown on him last year. He gets away with a ton of gambling because there's always another guy there to make the hit. He doesn't have to play sound, fundamental wrap-up defense, so he gets more "stats."

    Left unanswered was whether he could adjust his game to take care of his assignment without help in an environment (NFL) where he won't have the talent disparity he enjoys most Saturdays at the college level.

    He might, he might not. But the film breakdown showed a ton of INT's, PD's, FF's, all in situations where he was one of 2-3 guys converging on the receiver, and was free to try and jump the route or go for the big hit, knowing that somebody was always right there to clean up -- which frequently they had to.

    He's a good football player, but he reminds me of Macho Harris -- a great Hokie, but not suited to the NFL. A lot of pre-draft nonsense about being a late first/early second. Nearly declared early then withdrew it.... wound up barely making the Eagles in 09 and now out of the league. Right now that's about what I see with Mathieu -- a really good, really talented football player who at least right now, is not a good fit for the NFL game.
    nice breakdown and basically coincides with what those scouts said.
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    Re: Draft stuff...Tyrann Mathieu

    Quote Originally Posted by NC Raven View Post
    There was a good film breakdown on him last year. He gets away with a ton of gambling because there's always another guy there to make the hit. He doesn't have to play sound, fundamental wrap-up defense, so he gets more "stats."

    Left unanswered was whether he could adjust his game to take care of his assignment without help in an environment (NFL) where he won't have the talent disparity he enjoys most Saturdays at the college level.

    He might, he might not. But the film breakdown showed a ton of INT's, PD's, FF's, all in situations where he was one of 2-3 guys converging on the receiver, and was free to try and jump the route or go for the big hit, knowing that somebody was always right there to clean up -- which frequently they had to.

    He's a good football player, but he reminds me of Macho Harris -- a great Hokie, but not suited to the NFL. A lot of pre-draft nonsense about being a late first/early second. Nearly declared early then withdrew it.... wound up barely making the Eagles in 09 and now out of the league. Right now that's about what I see with Mathieu -- a really good, really talented football player who at least right now, is not a good fit for the NFL game.
    Fantastic post, right on the money.




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    Legalize it
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    Quote Originally Posted by NC Raven View Post
    There was a good film breakdown on him last year. He gets away with a ton of gambling because there's always another guy there to make the hit. He doesn't have to play sound, fundamental wrap-up defense, so he gets more "stats."

    Left unanswered was whether he could adjust his game to take care of his assignment without help in an environment (NFL) where he won't have the talent disparity he enjoys most Saturdays at the college level.

    He might, he might not. But the film breakdown showed a ton of INT's, PD's, FF's, all in situations where he was one of 2-3 guys converging on the receiver, and was free to try and jump the route or go for the big hit, knowing that somebody was always right there to clean up -- which frequently they had to.

    He's a good football player, but he reminds me of Macho Harris -- a great Hokie, but not suited to the NFL. A lot of pre-draft nonsense about being a late first/early second. Nearly declared early then withdrew it.... wound up barely making the Eagles in 09 and now out of the league. Right now that's about what I see with Mathieu -- a really good, really talented football player who at least right now, is not a good fit for the NFL game.
    Totally agree.

    Excellent college player...prob not bringing a lot to the NFL table. At 5'9" and 175lbs you have to be a pretty special player to find a fit into an nfl defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SC_Raven_Fan View Post
    Legalize it
    While i dont disagree with you, thats not the point. He knows the expectations of LSU. They have been told to him plenty of times. He chose to disobey them.
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