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    Re: Paul Ryan VP announcement imminent



    Oh, and what happened to G7? I got tired of beating him over the head with reality and logic and stopped coming around...was he banned?




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    Re: Paul Ryan VP announcement imminent

    He got put on vacation and never came back...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Horrible pick.

    Hands Florida to Obama. Ryan is already a hated figure with seniors since he wants to cap Medicare spending. Seniors, those 65+ make up 17% of the vote. In a race this close, it all but assures FL to Obama.

    Mitt needed to pick someone either very neutral / vanilla as to not push a state to blue, or pick someone that would have handed him a state like Rubio or Portman.

    Pretty poor pick IMO.
    You're right about FLA, another stupid move by the GOP and gives FLA and the WH to OBY. Rubio would have been the better choice
    there. It will get some of the conservatives though but not enough. The Christians still won't vote.

    If seniors are worried about Ryan and his plan does not effect anyone now on medicare or SS, wait til
    they see O BUMMER CARE with all the death panels.

    That's what drew me to Herman Cain. He had cancer operation and said he would be dead now with
    O BUMMER CARE. He wouldn't have been given the opportunity for the surgery. Instead it would have
    gone to a young girl so she could live a long life.

    And wait til you see the tie up when you are admitted to the hospital and wait for months for an x-ray
    like they do in Canada. I have posted many links on this the past few years.


    Speaking of seniors, I haven't been posting much because we just moved my mom into an assistive
    living facility. She's upset so Im spending a lot of time there with her and ate there tonight. She's getting excellent care there and they have brought down her blood sugar levels.

    I had been caring for her and kept her out of one for 3 years and then my sister took her in the but her sugar numbers remained high so we admitted her.

    I also posted links where some countries in Europe are closing nursing homes. They want the children to take care of their parents. ILMAO, that's the wait it was done for 4,000 yrs before socialism took over.



    But when I'm 88, they probably won't be there under O BUMMER CARE here. I posted a link where in Europe they are closing nursing homes and want the children to take them in. My sister did this for as long as she could. The state still pays for them but I hate to think when I'm 88.

    Think I'll just crawl on some beach and sleep with the fishes.

    Scares the hell out of me.
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    Galen got his feelings hurt here and left but was right about one thing - he kept the forum moving. I miss the laughs. I posted a link from scout where he was posting the same links and was getting his ass kicked there too.

    I miss him.




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    Guys, if Romney needed Rubio to win Florida, then he cannot win this election at all. Sorry, but that is just a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    Guys, if Romney needed Rubio to win Florida, then he cannot win this election at all. Sorry, but that is just a fact.

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    Same fact with Ryan. See HRs post above.




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    Hey Trap.

    Why won't Christians vote for Ryan? An Irish Catholic with a solid voting record on te social issues important to them?

    http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Paul_Ryan.htm/
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    It's not just Ryan but anyone.

    BTW, the Catholic Church voted for OBY. Then he thanked them by attacking them with the contraceptive thing.

    The Christian Right is the Southern Baptists and non-denominational protestant evangelical Christians.

    They didn't vote for Kennedy when he became the first Catholic president and they won't vote for
    Mitt to become the first Mormon president.

    In fact, millions of Christians are pissed that Billy Graham, a Southern Baptist, is in bed with the Pope. Um, not physically but figuretively. He sends many people from his crusade to join the Catholic Church when they go forward and has met with every Pope.

    Billy even has priests, cardinals and bishops on his stage with the protestant ministers.

    The protestants left them over 400 years ago. It's called the reformation.
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    Re: Paul Ryan VP announcement imminent

    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    Guys, if Romney needed Rubio to win Florida, then he cannot win this election at all. Sorry, but that is just a fact.
    I'll bite. How is this "fact" exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/1...rability-3925/

    Not worried about seniors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Wow
    Did you guys bother to read the Gallup poll?

    One, it's from April of 2011 ...

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/147287/Am...?version=print

    Two, this was a RV poll, but 10% of those polled were not even registered to vote.

    I'd love to see something more recent than a poll that's 18 months old.

    EDIT: And not a very smart move going on 60 Minutes the same night as the Olympic closing ceremonies. Why not wait a week and max exposure next Sunday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Did you guys bother to read the Gallup poll?

    One, it's from April of 2011 ...

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/147287/Am...?version=print

    Two, this was a RV poll, but 10% of those polled were not even registered to vote.

    I'd love to see something more recent than a poll that's 18 months old.

    EDIT: And not a very smart move going on 60 Minutes the same night as the Olympic closing ceremonies. Why not wait a week and max exposure next Sunday?
    Damn dude, they can't do anything right can they?

    They're taking advantage of the pick being fresh in the news cycle. Who they hell watches the closing ceremonies anyway?

    As far as the poll, I personally think it's good that a registered voter poll as they are usually less informed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I'll bite. How is this "fact" exactly?
    If he needs a specific person to run for VP to do nothing more than help him win a state, then that means he cannot win it on his own. And if he cannot win Florida on his own he will not win the election. That's pretty factual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Damn dude, they can't do anything right can they?

    They're taking advantage of the pick being fresh in the news cycle. Who they hell watches the closing ceremonies anyway?
    The closing ceremony wins its slot every year it's on.

    I could easily flip the script back to you and say "Damn, they can't do anything wrong".

    I'll be the first to say it when I think they do something right or deserve praise. I just feel they haven't done much right lately. The polls bare that out.
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    Re: Paul Ryan VP announcement imminent

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I could easily flip the script back to you and say "Damn, they can't do anything wrong".

    I'll be the first to say it when I think they do something right or deserve praise. I just feel they haven't done much right lately. The polls bare that out.

    You could, and I'll admit I'm an optimist so I do try to find the good in most everything, but we can go through and find where I've criticized things.

    I feel since you thought he should be starting to hit back a few weeks or so ago that you haven't agreed with anything they've done. While I think you're right on things like they've been getting caught up in the back and forth and not staying on message, I agree with going on 60 minutes. Romney was beginning to get defined by BHO, getting on primetime with Ryan gets in front of BHO's defining Ryan (not that going on 60 minutes will stop him from trying.




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    Re: Paul Ryan VP announcement imminent

    (For now and future reference, please note that I'm a card-carrying Independent (fiscal con, social lib). I'm also a contrarian that likes to isht on conventional wisdom whenever possible.)


    My take on the Ryan pick is that in real-time, tweets, fb posts, polls, bus tour turnouts, ads, and excitement about conventions and future debates seem like they matter, but ultimately they only matter a little bit.

    The BFD is electoral votes. Always is, right? So the question is an age-old, easy one (Stinger mentioned it upthread)...what does Ryan do for the ticket electorally?

    I'll hold back my wall of text for now (people keep interrupting me here), but I don't think he does/will do as much as the Repubs need. VP candidates--to a small degree--can help a party lose an election, but have any really helped to win one?




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