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Re: OT: Gaither Still hasn't practiced
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08-09-2012, 12:40 PM #38
For the record I was being sarcastic. Did not mean to resurrect the idiocy associated with the Gaither saga. My intention was to mock it. Obviously fairly effectively.
“Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.”
–Eleanor Roosevelt
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08-09-2012, 12:42 PM #39Legendary RSR Poster
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08-09-2012, 12:50 PM #40
Re: OT: Gaither Still hasn't practiced
Festivus
His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.
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08-09-2012, 12:52 PM #41
Re: Jared Haynesworth...er, Gaither @ it again
He is gone from the Ravens - enough said!
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08-09-2012, 12:53 PM #42Legendary RSR Poster
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Autocorrect is a bitch sometimes, festivus.
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08-09-2012, 12:54 PM #43Veteran Poster
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Re: OT: Gaither Still hasn't practiced
This has already been thoroughly addressed. Needless to say your constant refrain of tin foil hats and conspiracy theories does absolutely positively nothing to undermine the theories/guesses/arguments given. In fact, nothing you mention here even comes close to denting those arguments.
You act as if Gaither/Rosenhaus are not Watkins' clients (they are)
You act as if there is some way Watkins' reputation could be hurt by giving the diagnosis he did (how?)
You act as if this injury was objectively shown in any way (it wasn't, no "tear" shown on scans)
You act as if many many diagnoses are not just best guesses based on what the patient tells the doctor (they are, and this is crucial)
You act as if Watkins' diagnosis explained the amount of time Gaither missed (it didn't)
Tell me why the following could not have occurred:
Gaither is pissed and doesn't want to play RT or practice. He says his back hurts (or, similarly, his back does hurt a little but he says it really hurts). He tells Rosenhaus. Rosenhaus understands the situation, and his sole priority is keeping Gaither happy lest he get fired. Rosenhaus calls Watkins. Watkins runs tests that show nothing, but also listens to Gaither describe the "pain" he is supposedly feeling. Since not all minor injuries show up on scans, and considering there is NO possible reason why Watkins would ever call his patient/client a liar, Watkins says take two aspirin and rest until it feels better (gives rough timetable of a few weeks). The Ravens similarly run tests that show nothing, and listen to Gaither's complaints. They also, based on Gaither's complaints, conclude he has a minor injury and set up a timetable for his return. Unlike Watkins, the Ravens doctors are beholden to the team not Gaither. Once Gaither started missing time that was way beyond that which such a non-objective minor injury should require, combined with the obvious fact Gaither was pissed and had rep of being lazy, the Ravens cut bait.
Again, where is an elaborate conspiracy needed?
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08-09-2012, 12:58 PM #44Veteran Poster
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Re: Jared Haynesworth...er, Gaither @ it again
They are two non-conflicting (in fact they are correlated, i.e. common theme is he hates to practice) arguments. And how is the "lazy, hates practice" argument not possibly the current case? And how does it not matter if the injury is real or fake, isn't that what we are discussing or am I missing something?
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08-09-2012, 01:01 PM #45Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: OT: Gaither Still hasn't practiced
I'm not going to tell you why something "could not have happened" because that's not how arguments work. You don't conjure a story out of thin air and then look for evidence why it "couldn't have happened," and that's exactly what you're presuming we do.
I really am so flabbergasted by your post that I'm not sure how to respond. Your scenario is literally a story, a fairy tale, totally devoid of facts, and there's no way to prove or disprove a non-factual statement.
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08-09-2012, 01:06 PM #47
Re: OT: Gaither Still hasn't practiced
Festivus
His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.
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