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    I agree that ellerbe is making a little more money than he is probably worth. But looking at the roster, there isnt a whole lot of experience at the linebacker position this year and i think i would rather hold onto a guy that had been in the system for the last few years. You never know, he could be a sleeper to put in a decent season for us.




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    I still think David Reed is going to be waived or given an injury settlement. Not that he is expensive, but he isnt a very accomplished receiver and jacoby or asa will be the kick/punt returner moving forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ballhawk View Post
    I agree that ellerbe is making a little more money than he is probably worth. But looking at the roster, there isnt a whole lot of experience at the linebacker position this year and i think i would rather hold onto a guy that had been in the system for the last few years. You never know, he could be a sleeper to put in a decent season for us.
    I think you sum it up perfectly. Ellerbee seems to the target for many this year but he does provide depth with some exp. Not sure how a UDFA can be a disappointed. Also the Ravens are a team that makes pretty good decisions and they felt like his play deserved the second round tender.
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    Another place the Ravens could decide to cut payroll is at kicker. Cundiff's number is $2.8m for 2012 of which $600,000 is bonus. Appears they'd pick up $1.6m ($2.2m - Tucker's salary of $540,000) this year and have $600,000 against the cap both this year and next in dead money.

    Not sure it's worth it... but it's a thought.




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    Quote Originally Posted by perryw9202 View Post
    Another place the Ravens could decide to cut payroll is at kicker. Cundiff's number is $2.8m for 2012 of which $600,000 is bonus. Appears they'd pick up $1.6m ($2.2m - Tucker's salary of $540,000) this year and have $600,000 against the cap both this year and next in dead money.

    Not sure it's worth it... but it's a thought.
    To have a kicker who can hit a 32 yarder to potentially send the team to the Super Bowl is definitely worth it IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I still think David Reed is going to be waived or given an injury settlement. Not that he is expensive, but he isnt a very accomplished receiver and jacoby or asa will be the kick/punt returner moving forward.
    Makes sense, although you've now ignited the Reed supporters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Makes sense, although you've now ignited the Reed supporters.



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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post



    My bad. I didn't know that there really were any.
    Yup. Both of them will be really fired up now.
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    Re: Salary Cap Update

    Admittedly, I was a David Reed supporter for a long time, but the combination of injuries, lack of playing time, and yes, his ST miscues from last season have had the effect of changing my mind. I don't know how the coaches feel about him at this point, but I get the feeling they may be close to cutting bait here.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post



    My bad. I didn't know that there really were any.
    Oh...there are still a few out there lol.

    Fortunately, there don't seem to be many on the coaching staff any more.




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    The coaches like the guy, but none of that matters if you can't get on the field.
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  12. #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by perryw9202 View Post
    Another place the Ravens could decide to cut payroll is at kicker. Cundiff's number is $2.8m for 2012 of which $600,000 is bonus. Appears they'd pick up $1.6m ($2.2m - Tucker's salary of $540,000) this year and have $600,000 against the cap both this year and next in dead money.

    Not sure it's worth it... but it's a thought.
    Tucker is making only $390K, so the savings would be greater.

    If Cundiff is released, they will still have to carry $1.8M in dead money against the 2013 Cap due to the acceleration of the bonus prorations for the remaining years of his contract (2013-2015).
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I still think David Reed is going to be waived or given an injury settlement. Not that he is expensive, but he isnt a very accomplished receiver and jacoby or asa will be the kick/punt returner moving forward.
    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Makes sense, although you've now ignited the Reed supporters.
    I don't consider myself to be a "Reed supporter", but I don't agree with Wicked's logic on this one.

    Reed is likely to go on PUP and may not even be ready after week 6. As such, an injury settlement may not even be possible because he has to agree to it and why take less if you may not be able to play elsewhere this year anyway?

    Also, Reed - when healthy, and that is the big problem - has proven to be a pretty good KR (the Seattle game, notwithstanding). That is a valuable commodity that teams aren't eager to just give up on. He is still cheap and they aren't likely to need that Cap space this year anyway and it not that much to carryover into next year either.

    Lastly, Jones is set to make $4M next year, so there's a good chance, even if he has a good year as a KR, he won't be here next year. He's going to have to excel at WR to earn that 2nd year of the deal, IMO. So, next year, they may need a healthy (yes, for how long?) Reed at KR.

    Given the way this team has operated in the past, I just don't see them parting ways with Reed at this time. IMO, next year's TC will be make or break for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B-more Ravor View Post
    I don't consider myself to be a "Reed supporter", but I don't agree with Wicked's logic on this one.

    Reed is likely to go on PUP and may not even be ready after week 6. As such, an injury settlement may not even be possible because he has to agree to it and why take less if you may not be able to play elsewhere this year anyway?

    Also, Reed - when healthy, and that is the big problem - has proven to be a pretty good KR (the Seattle game, notwithstanding). That is a valuable commodity that teams aren't eager to just give up on. He is still cheap and they aren't likely to need that Cap space this year anyway and it not that much to carryover into next year either.

    Lastly, Jones is set to make $4M next year, so there's a good chance, even if he has a good year as a KR, he won't be here next year. He's going to have to excel at WR to earn that 2nd year of the deal, IMO. So, next year, they may need a healthy (yes, for how long?) Reed at KR.

    Given the way this team has operated in the past, I just don't see them parting ways with Reed at this time. IMO, next year's TC will be make or break for him.
    It's possible, but I just don't see them keeping him. They drafted Asa Jackson who was a good return specialist prospect and Bobby Rainey can also return kicks.
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    Re: Salary Cap Update

    David Reed has been listed as the #4 receiver on the depth chart though, and Harbaugh constantly brings his name up in conversation when talking WR's, so I think the Ravens still like him a lot.




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