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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    That is definitely very worrying.

    Any news on Marcus McNiel, or is he basically not coming back to football?

    I am not confident having Oher at left tackle at all.
    Preston was on the radio this morning say Oher has been looking really motivated in minicamps and that he did well to end the season last year. I thought he did too.
    I'd still like another option though.

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    Re: Camp notes ~ daily updates

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    That is definitely very worrying.

    Any news on Marcus McNiel, or is he basically not coming back to football?

    I am not confident having Oher at left tackle at all.
    The only team that I heard about looking at McNeill was the Eagles. They were desperate for a Left Tackle after losing theirs for the season and they passed. That's not a good sign. He's coming off a bad neck and back. I doubt he's coming back this year.
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    Re: Camp notes ~ daily updates

    The O-line is definately a major concern right now. Other than Oher and Yanda, all we have is a bunch of guys in their mid 30's competing with a bunch of rookies and unproven guys, two of which are dealing with injuries. We kind of got lucky last year with how it all shaped up...hopefully that luck holds up.




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    Re: Camp notes ~ daily updates

    We'll have some news and insight for you within the hour....in the meantime, I'll be sharing some with the guys on the Coach's Buzz heard on ESPN AM 1300. You can listen in HERE I'll be on at 6:05.
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    Re: Camp notes ~ daily updates

    Some tidbits here to be followed in the morning by a full camp report...

    Asa Jackson has been impressive since he arrived. Team believes that he could be a productive nickel in the future. His progress could eventually supplant Cary Williams...

    Christian Thompson is fast and can hit. Insiders don't expect a lot of production from him as a safety in 2012 outside of special teams but he could develop and be more noticeable as a defender by 2013. Secondary mate Corey Graham while listed as a corner is being looked at more for his special teams acumen. He figures to be a backup safety at some point.

    Courtney Upshaw is carrying about 285 pounds. The Ravens would like to see him get down to 270. He's thick, and his build at the moment is a lot like Pernell McPhee's. He has impressed the team with his ability to drop into coverage.

    Gino Gradkowski is said to be tough and extremely bright yet a bit undersized. Matt Birk is noticeably bigger...Bobbie Williams is a bulldozer and a smart player with leadership skills.

    No word yet on whether or not the league has approved the hearing aid insert for Sergio Kindle.

    The competition for backup running back should be fierce but the question is, do any of these competitors have what it takes to take the reins should Ray Rice miss some time? Word is that the pecking order for No. 2 on the depth charts goes like this...Pierce, Allen, Berry. Would not be shocked to see a Cedric Benson add late in camp or after Week 1 if he takes close to a vet minimum AND these youngsters don't perform well. That would be a typical move from Ozzie.

    Don't look for Jah Reid on the practice field for a couple of weeks. Kelechi Osemele could be on the field as early as this week...Eric Steinbach had a very good workout with the Ravens. There are some lingering health concerns. He's hardly a lock to sign with the club.

    David Reed may have played his last game as a Raven. There isn't much organizational confidence in him. The guess here is he'll stay on PUP and when healthy enough there will be some injury settlement.

    Joe Flacco has thrown the ball very well. One insider does not think that the contract will affect Joe's play because he's not built like that. He trusts that his agent (Joe Linta) will eventually get the deal done. Linta has a decent relationship with the club.
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    upshaw is up to 285? whatever happened to him trying to lose 10-15 pounds before camp? i can see him carrying more weight could help fighting in the trenches in the run game... we need him to be rushing the passer not dropping in coverage. hopefully this doesn't turn out to be an issue like suggs had where he couldn't rush like we know he can after showing up in camp overweight.




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    Re: Camp notes ~ daily updates

    Courtney Upshaw listed as 285 lbs? Lol at 6'1, I can't think of a bigger LB than that, but if he can drop back into coverage at that size, that is very impressive. I knew Gino was a bit too under size, and it doesn't surprise me that Birk bulked up, maybe it will help him end the seasons a little better.




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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bills View Post
    upshaw is up to 285? whatever happened to him trying to lose 10-15 pounds before camp? i can see him carrying more weight could help fighting in the trenches in the run game... we need him to be rushing the passer not dropping in coverage. hopefully this doesn't turn out to be an issue like suggs had where he couldn't rush like we know he can after showing up in camp overweight.
    If it's muscle, it shouldn't be too much of an issue. He doesn't exactly look out of shape from what I've seen of him, but it would probably be better if he was down to 270 lbs.




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    Pretty disappointed in Upshaw being that heavy.

    And bad news for those who are always complaining about Birk being too small lol.

    I like Pierce and I don't think there will be a need for a vet. I think Pierce could be a good starter in this league.

    And as for Reed...I think he gets IR'd, but the guy is on his last leg here...no pun intended. I don't think he has a future with this team.




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    Re: Camp notes ~ daily updates

    Not surprised David Reed may get an injury settlement and then released. He hasn't contributed as a receiver and has been passed by Doss and LaQuan and now Jones on the depth chart and as a kick return specialist he won't be able to beat out Jacoby Jones or Asa Jackson most likely because he can't get on the field.


    Upshaw at 285lbs? Is that fact or speculation? Just a month ago he was around 275lbs and looking to drop down to 265...what happened there? Is that by design?
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    Re: Camp notes ~ daily updates

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Upshaw at 285lbs? Is that fact or speculation? Just a month ago he was around 275lbs and looking to drop down to 265...what happened there? Is that by design?
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    and we who were scratching our heads at upshaw failing the conditioning test first time around were BLASTED for overreacting. That combined with him being 285 explains a bit. Still not looking over the ledge, but that explains a bit.

    That said, if he's impressing with his coverage at 285, why not keep him there? Bigger LB is going to have an easier time up against big OL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    and we who were scratching our heads at upshaw failing the conditioning test first time around were BLASTED for overreacting. That combined with him being 285 explains a bit. Still not looking over the ledge, but that explains a bit.

    That said, if he's impressing with his coverage at 285, why not keep him there? Bigger LB is going to have an easier time up against big OL.
    There are some concerns about his burst as a pass rusher at 285. Plus dropping nicely into a zone and making the proper reads is impressive at this early stage but at 285 is a bit different than having to man up on a back or tight end.
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    Re: Camp notes ~ daily updates

    Quote Originally Posted by TL24x7 View Post
    It's what was shared with me by a team source.
    Wow. Interesting.

    I wonder if that was by design since he's going to basically be replacing JJ as a edge-setter/run stopper?

    I mean, he'll still drop a good 10lbs this training camp more than likely and it's not like he's a soft 285lbs. He's built like a tank.

    It is just surprising because how they talked about him dropping weight to become quicker off the edge. I just don't want them to do what they did with Kruger early on and try and turn him into something he's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TL24x7 View Post
    There are some concerns about his burst as a pass rusher at 285. Plus dropping nicely into a zone and making the proper reads is impressive at this early stage but at 285 is a bit different than having to man up on a back or tight end.
    yeah, thats a lot different than actually covering somebody but at least hes doing that well. The other part of that is what i think most people that have doubts are worried about, the actual physical ability to cover. as stiff as he was at 260-270 i cant see to 285 being better for him in that regard.


    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Wow. Interesting.

    I wonder if that was by design since he's going to basically be replacing JJ as a edge-setter/run stopper?

    I mean, he'll still drop a good 10lbs this training camp more than likely and it's not like he's a soft 285lbs. He's built like a tank.

    It is just surprising because how they talked about him dropping weight to become quicker off the edge. I just don't want them to do what they did with Kruger early on and try and turn him into something he's not.
    sounds like its not by design if theyre worried about his quickness/burst already, which i think we agreed isnt his strong suite to begin with. im not worried about him at 270 or less, but i would have hoped he came into camp at that than using camp to get into shape. Seems backwards from everything ive heard about him and his work ethic. even if hes packing on muscle, youd think hed be monitoring that if the teams, and himself, wanted to be at 265.
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