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07-05-2012, 01:12 PM #49Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: I would like to exercise my 2nd...
Exercise it while you still can.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/the...-trade-treaty/
Yes I know the Senate would still vote on it and I doubt they could get 2/3 to sign off on it but the way things are going lately ... you never know.
On a side note, I can't believe any one considering a run for the Whitehouse (Hilary or reelection BHO would consider signing this...
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07-09-2012, 09:41 PM #52Legendary RSR Poster
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07-09-2012, 11:01 PM #54
Re: I would like to exercise my 2nd...
Exactly how does this affect your right to bear arms? It doesn't. I ignored the point then because it was irrelevant to anyone who understands that the right to bear arms is not affected by this treaty in any way.
It's funny how you two can extrapolate from a treaty he may or may not sign that the big bad man in the White House is working to take away your guns when in fact that treaty in no way, shape or form intends to (nor is it even capable of) doing so.
But, but, but... our second amendment rights... Wayne La Pierre said...
All this unwarranted paranoia can't be good for your health. Your guns are safe. You can continue get them rather easily if you want them, and in any number of ways. That won't change one iota as a result of this treaty. There's a difference between controlling access to weapons and the limiting a person's right to have them.
This is about curbing access to a variety of weapons and nefarious arms deals. I don't expect it will be particularly effective in the context of meaningful gun control, but I also don't see how this in any way relates to the second amendment.
Of course I also think the second amendment is an outdated crock of sh*t, but that's besides the point.
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Re: I would like to exercise my 2nd...
Speaking of cleaning, I worked with a sargeant who was in Nam and a VC jumped out from a bush and had him drop dead in his sights.
His AK 47 jammed.
The Sarge's M-16 didn't and he shot him dead.
When the sarge examined the AK he saw it wasn't cleaned. Not cleaning it saved his life.
Back in the 90s we were sitting around the office debating the M-16 vs the AK-47. Most of the guys preferred the M-16 because it was more accurate but that same sarge said that doesn't matter in the jungle and a guy jumps out of the bush and has the drops on you at close range.
He knew from experience.
I don't know about now but they made us take a rifle apart blind folded and clean them cause you have to change them in the dark on the battle field. We knew every inch of our wapons like our bodies.
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07-10-2012, 05:40 AM #56Legendary RSR Poster
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The treaty will vastly increase the price of importation, thus raising the price of weapons. Since 50-60% of the handguns sold in the US come from places like Germany and Austria, the importation on moderately priced weapons will get more expensive.
I think you're smart enough, TEP, to know that cost gets passed on to the buyer. Once prices start going up, it's more difficult to buy weapons.
Is it some sweeping anti-gun measure? No and nobody claimed it was. You claimed this President isn't doing anything along the lines of gun control and this, along with things mentioned in other threads, shows that your claim is as nowhere absolute as you make it out to be.
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07-10-2012, 08:43 AM #58Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: I would like to exercise my 2nd...
As big of a fan I am over my M4, the AK-47 and it's variants pwns the AR-15 and it's variants.
The AK is more durable weapon and more accurate at longer distances. You can drop an AK in a pile of mud, sand, etc pick it up and it will go bang every time.
The same cannot be said for AR's. Even a modest amount of dirt inside the chamber and you've got issues. It's that very reason they added the forward assist to the upper receiver.
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Re: I would like to exercise my 2nd...
Then why not put that in your reply. You left it out because it went against your point that Obama was not anti-gun.
All this unwarranted paranoia can't be good for your health. Your guns are safe. You can continue get them rather easily if you want them, and in any number of ways. That won't change one iota as a result of this treaty. There's a difference between controlling access to weapons and the limiting a person's right to have them.
Of course I also think the second amendment is an outdated crock of sh*t, but that's besides the point.
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