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    Re: Supreme Court decision on O'BUMMER CARE TODAY????



    Someone makes a great point here.

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    Dems on Capitol Hill had already started crafting legislation in anticipation of the AZ law being upheld. They want the Congress to flat out outlaw any state from enforcing immigration laws. BRILLIANT!! Brilliant idea, Dems! I think that you should not only go forward with that, but make it a key plank to your platform this November. Promote the heck out of it too. Tell the American public how "out of touch" the GOP is for wanting immigration law enforced.




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    Key vote was Kennedy the supposed conservative who sided with
    the liberals here. Both sides gave him enough wriggle room to
    reel him on their side for Thursday's showdown.

    The liberals want to keep him to uphold OBUMMBER CARE of course,
    and the conservatives gave him room where the law was kept but
    the profiling was basically thrown out.

    Cops can still stop suspected illegals but they have to do a quick
    search on them and the gov't won't cooperate as far as legal
    guidance to the cops as required by this law making it more moot for a modest victory for OBY.

    But when has OBY ever followed the law as Prez?


    So Kennedy goes liberal for now.

    Also in a funny move Kagen recused herself since whe worked vs
    that law as atty but she didn't recuse for OBUMMER CARE when she
    helped write that.


    Liberals are total hypocrites.



    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...l-for-now.html
    Last edited by AirFlacco; 06-26-2012 at 01:56 AM.




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    Re: Supreme Court decision on O'BUMMER CARE TODAY????

    About 24 more hours to go or less. Sometime
    tomorrow we'll know but rumor has it Ginsburg
    is writing the disenting opinion while Roberts is
    writing for the majority.


    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/2...acare-dissent/




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    Scott Rasmussen was on TV and said it doesn't matter what the SC decides. There's not going to
    be OBAMA CARE.

    If they uphold it, it will still be done away with.

    The country just doesn't want it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    Scott Rasmussen was on TV and said it doesn't matter what the SC decides. There's not going to
    be OBAMA CARE.

    If they uphold it, it will still be done away with.

    The country just doesn't want it.
    I don't typically watch Hannity, he is way to partisan for me. But I watched a focus group he had last night were 2/3 of the people voted for BHO and many of them didn't want it. More than a handful already said their not voting for him again.

    I am not sure what's going to happen today, I got a weird feeling it will be upheld, or at least most of it. If that's the case bye bye BHO.
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    Yea, that's what I've been hearing that most of it will be upheld but
    only the mandate will be thrown out. Afterall, that was the only thing the states argued on - the mandate was uncostitutional.

    OBY keeps insisting that it is needed to make the rest of it go.
    However, much of it has been implemented already.

    Latest stats just posted:

    39'% are for it.
    49% are against it
    53% say all of it should be thrown if if mandate is thrown out
    16% are unsure

    That's about the same as it's been since it was passed.

    Insurance providers say if the mandate is just thrown out and
    the rest is upheld our insurance rates will increase.

    This really sucks.


    Oh yea, I have hear rumors that Roberts is writing for the majority
    and Ginsburg is writing the dissenting opinion. Roberts law professor thinks he is writing for the majority and will uphold all
    of it.

    Roberts and Kennedy are the two I've been worried about all along as we saw in the Arizona Law. They are always the swing votes
    and go liberal many times.
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    If Roberts writes the opinion and Ginsburg writes the dissent. Ginsburg won't be writing the dissent saying it should be shot down... never happen.
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    Re: Supreme Court decision on O'BUMMER CARE TODAY????

    Neither side is going to be happy with this one, IMO.

    Both sides will spin it as a win, but in the end it's going to create more problems than it solves.

    Unless it's struck down completely (highly doubtful, IMO), this won't be the end of it.
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    Re: Supreme Court decision on O'BUMMER CARE TODAY????

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Neither side is going to be happy with this one, IMO.

    Both sides will spin it as a win, but in the end it's going to create more problems than it solves.

    Unless it's struck down completely (highly doubtful, IMO), this won't be the end of it.
    Yup, just going to be more lawsuits...
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    Exactly, HR. This ain't won't be over. Former Atty Gen under
    Reagan, Mease was just on and said if Romney wins it will be
    repealed.

    NC - I meant Ginsburgh will write the dissenting opinion to uphold
    it.

    Roberts could even punt and tell them to
    shelve it and they will vote on it later. By then there will be a
    new court with at least 1 maybe 2 conservative judges retiring.
    If OBY is re-elected he can put in a liberal court.




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    Re: Supreme Court decision on O'BUMMER CARE TODAY????

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Yup, just going to be more lawsuits...

    There is another law suit in the appeals court right now brought on
    by the independent hospitals. this case was brought on by the
    states filed by Florida mins after the bill was signed.

    They just took the bench.




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    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    Exactly, HR. This ain't won't be over. Former Atty Gen under
    Reagan, Mease was just on and said if Romney wins it will be
    repealed.

    NC - I meant Ginsburgh will write the dissenting opinion to uphold
    it.


    Roberts could even punt and tell them to
    shelve it and they will vote on it later. By then there will be a
    new court with at least 1 maybe 2 conservative judges retiring.
    If OBY is re-elected he can put in a liberal court.
    Maybe I read it wrong but it looked like you meant Roberts is writing the majority to uphold the whole law.... no biggie.
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    Re: Supreme Court decision on O'BUMMER CARE TODAY????

    I quoted his law professor as saying that he will uphold the law.

    The general feeling is he's writing the majority to strike down the
    mandate.




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    They just said if the mandate is thrown out and the rest stands, the insurance industry will go bankrupt. This is what we've been saying since the beginning. This is what OBY wants like destroying the
    coal and oil industries.

    If he's re-elected he will make the gov't the sole provider of health
    care ala Gov't Motors.




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    Roberts is reading the decision now.


    MANDATE THROWN OUT.


    MANDATE THROWN OUT

    MANDATE THROWN OUT




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