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    Re: OT: Gronkowski inks 6- year 54 million deal



    Quote Originally Posted by arnie_uk View Post
    I think this was actually a true extension, his final two years weren't touched, and the new deal was added to the end of it.
    Right, but even though the last 2 years aren't touched it still works out over 8 years not 6. He is under contract for the next 8 years, and will get about 57 million over that time.




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    Quote Originally Posted by BcRaven View Post
    Actually, according to ESPN, it is 6 years for $53 million/with 16.5 mil. guaranteed : http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/...lion-extension
    Either way I think he was wise to take it. You might have "rolled the dice", but this is football not baseball, and a greater possibility of injury. Gronk was scheduled to make $500,000+ for each of the next two seasons. That is a great risk for a guy in this collision sport. Now he's guaranteed $16.5 million and will never have to worry where his next meal is coming from. BTW what is "only" about 7 million a year? ... Bc
    "Only" 7 million a year refers to the going rate for a skill player on offense who puts up 1300 yards and 17 TD's, which is double that.

    Look at the recent contracts of Fitzgerald and Calvin Johnson. They got triple the guaranteed money Gronk got and are making double the yearly average.

    For similar production.




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    Re: OT: Gronkowski inks 6- year 54 million deal

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    And to think, he went 1 pick ahead of Sergio Kindle... and there were rumors he was off the ravens board entirely... Coulda, Shoulda, Woulda...
    Back injuries are tricky. If the Ravens weren't 100% convinced that he would be medically able to play then I understand why they took him off their board. They weren't the only ones either.
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    Re: OT: Gronkowski inks 6- year 54 million deal

    not how i would call it, to me it doesnt start till the current one ends. his new contract is 6yr 54 mil, not 8 years, not 57 mil.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheJoeFlaccoShow View Post
    Right, but even though the last 2 years aren't touched it still works out over 8 years not 6. He is under contract for the next 8 years, and will get about 57 million over that time.




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    Re: OT: Gronkowski inks 6- year 54 million deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TheJoeFlaccoShow View Post
    "Only" 7 million a year refers to the going rate for a skill player on offense who puts up 1300 yards and 17 TD's, which is double that.
    Look at the recent contracts of Fitzgerald and Calvin Johnson. They got triple the guaranteed money Gronk got and are making double the yearly average.
    For similar production.
    Man, fans are funny. 99% of us won't even make $7 million in our working lifetimes, but you're "upset" that he won't be making double that. AND if he did, guess who will pay for it (?) ... Bc




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    Re: OT: Gronkowski inks 6- year 54 million deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TheJoeFlaccoShow View Post
    "Only" 7 million a year refers to the going rate for a skill player on offense who puts up 1300 yards and 17 TD's, which is double that.

    Look at the recent contracts of Fitzgerald and Calvin Johnson. They got triple the guaranteed money Gronk got and are making double the yearly average.

    For similar production.
    But you also have to consider the situations of the players. Gronk is playing on a 2nd round rookie contract. The Pats had no incentive at all to pay him now and he had every incentive to take what he could get.

    CJ and Fitzgerald both carried cap numbers upwards of 20 million dollars when they got their new deals. Arizona and Detroit HAD to get those deals worked out. And they gave up a bit more than maybe the should have.




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    23 and already the best at his position...... Its a no brainer..

    Look for Graham from the saints to be next, only bad thing is, he is an odd guy lol. He spends weekends with pornstars in Vages, and dances like he's crazy.. Lmao not necessarily horrible things, but he's an odd guy for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedPurple92 View Post
    23 and already the best at his position...... Its a no brainer..

    Look for Graham from the saints to be next, only bad thing is, he is an odd guy lol. He spends weekends with pornstars in Vages, and dances like he's crazy.. Lmao not necessarily horrible things, but he's an odd guy for sure.
    Sorry, but I'll take Graham over Gronk (originally I wanted the Ravens to draft Graham when he was available a few years ago). Gronk was too much of a risk with his back. If his back can hold up for the next two years then I'll admit we were all wrong. Graham doesn't have the health issues Gronk has and he is a heck of a player too!




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    Quote Originally Posted by PalladinInNC View Post
    Sorry, but I'll take Graham over Gronk (originally I wanted the Ravens to draft Graham when he was available a few years ago). Gronk was too much of a risk with his back. If his back can hold up for the next two years then I'll admit we were all wrong. Graham doesn't have the health issues Gronk has and he is a heck of a player too!


    While they may be in the same ballpark as receiving options, in the rest of a TE's game they couldn't be furhter apart. Gronk is one of the VERY BEST blockers at TE in all of football, and Graham has zero technique or effort in the blocking game. Gronk is in a league with blocker first TE's like Manumaleuna, and Grahm is behind WR's like Ward and Mark Clayton...

    And I'd only call them in the same ballpark, I'd say that Gronk, is IMO, the better receiving option as well.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Sergio Kindle was always first round talent, talent wasn't the problem for him.

    But again, it happened, we could have had Brady in the 6th round in 2000. Shit happens in the draft. IMO the Patriots made a mistake trading up for Hightower when they should have drafted Upshaw, but that's just my opinion, lets see where both players are 4 years from now.

    I disagree. Scouts started moving him down to the second round as early as November. He looked A LOT better with Orapko on the other side then he did without him. That's besides the fact it was well known he had a two cent head and some serious injury concerns of his own.

    I'll admit chris Cooke hasn't been too great, even Kyle Wilson, though McCourty has been pretty good. At the time I thougth getting a top end Corner was ABSOLUTELY ESENTIAL, and then Oz wowed me with the highway robbery steal of a trade for Josh Wilson to make ammends.




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    Yea, Gronk had a lot of red flags. I think he missed most of his last year if not all of
    it plus another season. Gotta hand it to Bellicheat to gamble on him. Remember all the
    confusion at their table when he jumped in front of Ozzie to get Gronk. Goodell had
    to go down to tell them to move it.

    Bellicheat was scared to death he'd lose Gronk to Ozzie like he lost Ray Rice to him. He
    knew Ozzie needed a TE so he moved up to get him but Gronk wasn't even on Ozzie's
    radar like with so many others. Oz said he got the guys he wanted.

    Of course, Bellicheat moved in front of Oz again this year to get Hightower but Oz
    was crushed this time. Then entire city was crushed.

    Bellicheat knows Ozzie's moves from their days in Cleve when
    both got their starts and grew together. They decided they wouldn't even join Blistro,
    a scouting combine most teams used. They wanted their own scouting reports from the
    own guys so they hired more scouts. That's when they moved Phil Savage from the
    line to scout and the rest is history for both men.

    Seems like Bellicheat is always out-maneuvering Oz except in the Rice draft.

    Kindle was a top 20 pick but started moving down just before that draft. I was shocked
    to still get him in 2d.

    Everyone on the boards wanted either Kyle Wilson or Mc Courty in that draft. Everyone
    was leaning to Mc Courty for being Rice's teammate in college plus he was good.

    Bolden and TJ grilled Wilson in his first game with the Jets but McCourty has hurt us a couple of times while we have nothing to show for Kindle.

    That's one time the fans were right.
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    Re: OT: Gronkowski inks 6- year 54 million deal

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    While they may be in the same ballpark as receiving options, in the rest of a TE's game they couldn't be furhter apart. Gronk is one of the VERY BEST blockers at TE in all of football, and Graham has zero technique or effort in the blocking game. Gronk is in a league with blocker first TE's like Manumaleuna, and Grahm is behind WR's like Ward and Mark Clayton...

    And I'd only call them in the same ballpark, I'd say that Gronk, is IMO, the better receiving option as well.
    Graham is still a basketball player playing TE. Gronk is a real tight end. I'd take Gronk too.
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    Re: OT: Gronkowski inks 6- year 54 million deal

    Quote Originally Posted by PalladinInNC View Post
    Sorry, but I'll take Graham over Gronk (originally I wanted the Ravens to draft Graham when he was available a few years ago). Gronk was too much of a risk with his back. If his back can hold up for the next two years then I'll admit we were all wrong. Graham doesn't have the health issues Gronk has and he is a heck of a player too!
    I too wanted Graham, but I think from a purely TE perspective you need to consider the fact that Gronk is also a good blocker. Graham is an ideal fit for the Saints' offense because he is rarely asked to block. That was one of his biggest knocks coming out of college. Sure, he's athletic, but he can't block at all.

    That's why I still think that Vernon Davis is the best overall TE in the NFL right now. He can block better than almost any other TE in the league and he's just as athletic as Jimmy Graham.
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    Appears this signing means the Patriots are all in with Gronk for the forseeable future. Makes we wonder if Aaron Hernandez will be allowed to test free agency in 2 years or so because we all know he's not getting that kind of money




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    Re: OT: Gronkowski inks 6- year 54 million deal

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post

    Seems like Bellicheat is always out-maneuvering Oz except in the Rice draft.
    Belichick is more aggressive in moving up, and maybe he can afford to be since the Pats always seem to have so many draft picks. I guess what struck me about them taking Hightower was that a large part of that move came from denying him to us.




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