Jacoby Jones

**Section 502 Raven** · 06-02-2012, 09:22 PM

"Recently acquired wide receiver Jacoby Jones dropped several passes yesterday, but he still stands out with his speed. He also seems to be spending an awful lot of time talking to the quarterbacks and working with the young receivers. He’ll fit in well. ****"

jones dropped passes for the texans. i don't see how that will change wiht the ravens. we need a more dependable receiver as the #3 guy. he may be a good special teams guy but ihope we have a better laternative at #3.

**Corey** · 06-02-2012, 09:49 PM

It's early but I have a feeling that this is a bad De Ja Vu in the making. Two years in a row we've had dropped passes by our #3 receiver end our season. Houshmanzadeh dropped a crucial 4th down ball that hit him right between the numbers. And then of course, we all know about the other one.

I really hope this isnt a repeat.

**HoustonRaven** · 06-02-2012, 10:02 PM

It's OTA's

**wickedsolo** · 06-02-2012, 10:28 PM

It is OTA's and he's still getting accustomed to the offense. I'd also argue that Flacco throws the ball a hell of a lot harder than Matt Schaub does.

However, the dropsies are something that is a concern. If you're having trouble catching the ball with shorts on how are you going to handle it when you're getting beat up from a cornerback? This is something that I was (and still am) very nervous about when it comes to Jacoby Jones.

**psuasskicker** · 06-03-2012, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

It's OTA's

And he's the #3.

You don't get Calvin Johnson to be your #3 guy. You find someone who's really great at one thing or just solid across several things and hope he can provide you with a few plays.

You know who the best #3 receiver was last year? Pick whichever one of Lance Moore or Robert Meachem you think better fits that definition. They're both pretty much the same, with about 625 yards and either 8 or 6 TDs. That's a pretty damn good #3 receiver. If Jacoby Jones does half that in '12, he's still 240 yards and 3-4 TDs better than our #3 wide receiver from '11.

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**JAB1985** · 06-03-2012, 06:38 AM

Jones always has had bad hands, otherwise hed be a dominant player as everything else is there. It is early but this is who he is, which is why i wasnt head over heals for the move to begin with. Hes inconsistent and thats not something thats going to really help flacco. For putting emphasis on "guys that can catch the ball" this offseason, they didnt really grab the best of the.best at it. Jones has his issues. streeter, while still a work in progress, has had and continues to have problems catching. Even peirce isnt a proven commodity. Doesnt mean combined they wont be better than the previous year. If anything ot opens up the door for doss who can and does catch everything to get some PT.

**leachisabeast** · 06-03-2012, 06:54 AM

Who where you guys expecting us to get? We couldn't even afford a guy like Laurent Robinson, at least we got someone who can return kicks and punts pretty well. At the end of the day, the best man will win the #3 WR position, and will likely not have to do much more than rack up anywhere between 200-400 yards, which I think Jacoby can do. At the same time LaQuan Williams and Tandon Doss can beat out Jacoby for that position, but they have to back it up through out the pre season, and need to bring the A game in the pre season games too. Ultimately our tight ends are going to be the guys who need to step it up as they are playing a very important role in our offense, and of course Boldin and Smith will have high expectations to do well this year.

T Smith (Good for, 800-1000 yards)
Boldin (Good for, 700-900 yards)
Ray Rice (Good for, 500-700 yards)
Pitta (Good for, 400-600 yards)
Dickson (Good for, 400-600 yards)

These are the guys that will get most of the catches in this offense. Anything our #3 guy can do is just a bonus IMO. Even our fullback had more catches than our #3 guy last year. I think we will see more work from our #3 guy this year, I expect around 200-400 yards from him (whoever it is). So Flacco is likely to pass for around 3800 yards in 2012.

**GOTA** · 06-03-2012, 09:38 AM

I still hope that someone beats Jones out the the #3 spot. Let him stick to being the return guy.

**wickedsolo** · 06-03-2012, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Who where you guys expecting us to get? We couldn't even afford a guy like Laurent Robinson, at least we got someone who can return kicks and punts pretty well. At the end of the day, the best man will win the #3 WR position, and will likely not have to do much more than rack up anywhere between 200-400 yards, which I think Jacoby can do. At the same time LaQuan Williams and Tandon Doss can beat out Jacoby for that position, but they have to back it up through out the pre season, and need to bring the A game in the pre season games too. Ultimately our tight ends are going to be the guys who need to step it up as they are playing a very important role in our offense, and of course Boldin and Smith will have high expectations to do well this year.

T Smith (Good for, 800-1000 yards)
Boldin (Good for, 700-900 yards)
Ray Rice (Good for, 500-700 yards)
Pitta (Good for, 400-600 yards)
Dickson (Good for, 400-600 yards)

These are the guys that will get most of the catches in this offense. Anything our #3 guy can do is just a bonus IMO. Even our fullback had more catches than our #3 guy last year. I think we will see more work from our #3 guy this year, I expect around 200-400 yards from him (whoever it is). So Flacco is likely to pass for around 3800 yards in 2012.

That's not really the point though. Considering the issues the entire receiving unit had last year with the dropsies you would think that they would like to be leaning more towards guys with consistent hands.

I like the size/speed combo that Jones has. I like that he's got experience as a return specialist.

What I don't like is that he's never really been a good receiver to begin with and he's potentially taking snaps/opportunities away from Doss and/or LaQuan who could end up being really good players.

LaQuan has experience as a kick returner. So does Torrey. Both have experience as punt returners. They drafted Asa Jackson who was a very productive punt and kick returner in college and they brought in Deonte Thompson and Bobby Rainey who are experience kick and punt returners from college. Young? Absolutely. However, that's what the pre-season is for. The Steelers weren't sure what they had in Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders until they put them out there and not they're two of the better young all-around receivers in the league.

**Saltwater_Rider** · 06-04-2012, 06:01 PM

Whoever is #3, Boldin should be in the slot in 3 receiver sets. Text book Air Coryell.

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**houstonravensfan** · 06-04-2012, 07:08 PM

A few thoughts

A couple of posts have said (paraphrasing): "They [young WRs] must be pretty good; after all, they made the team." MAYBE pretty good, OR least bad.

What's clear IMHO, is that OZ/the FO can't draft a mid-round WR and/or the coaching staff can't develop a young WR. I think it's the former and that we need aa new approach to evaluating WRs or new people doing the valuation.

Our record of drafting and developing WRs is an embarassment and could really hurt this season when we might find ourselves in a game or two where the O must bail out the D.