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    Re: OVER/UNDER 4,000 passing yards for Flacco



    Quote Originally Posted by ballhawk View Post
    I hope so too but we have lost a lot of pieces this offseason. It almost feels like a rebuilding year for the D...new coordinator and a bunch of new faces. No suggs, no JJ, no redding, no depth behind reed/pollard....

    I dont think this team is going to have a choice but to manufacture more points.
    People say it's going to be a rebuilding year for the Ravens D every offseason, yet we finish in the top 5 almost every year. We did lose some key players, but we have added talented young players over the years on defense who now need to step up. We still have Ed Reed, Haloti Ngata, Ray Lewis, Webb, and Suggs will be coming back at some point in the season, you should never consider a defense as a rebuilding defense with those calibre of players starting.




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    Re: OVER/UNDER 4,000 passing yards for Flacco

    I think it will be close to 4K on one side or the other. To me the difference is improving on the dropped passes. They had plenty of attempts and got close but too many drops. And blame the OC if you want to but they were a dropped pass away from the SB and this team is a smash mouth team first and foremost (although that's evolving).

    They didn't sign the highest paid FB in the league to go pass happy IMO
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    Re: OVER/UNDER 4,000 passing yards for Flacco

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    People say it's going to be a rebuilding year for the Ravens D every offseason, yet we finish in the top 5 almost every year. We did lose some key players, but we have added talented young players over the years on defense who now need to step up. We still have Ed Reed, Haloti Ngata, Ray Lewis, Webb, and Suggs will be coming back at some point in the season, you should never consider a defense as a rebuilding defense with those calibre of players starting.
    You assume that suggs will be back, and even if he does come back it will be way late in the season and he will be nowhere near 100%. Basically we have lost almost half of our front 7, our DC, and a couple very important role players (zib, nak). What happens if reed or pollard go down for an extended period? At the moment, 2012 looks as much a rebuilding year for this D as any other year since 2002. I dont think the D will look anywhere as dominant as 2011...i sincerelly hope im wrong.

    And dont get me wrong...i like the new guys coming up and trust the entire organization as far as infusing the team with defensive talent..just have to temper my expectations for this year.




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    Re: OVER/UNDER 4,000 passing yards for Flacco

    I said under because Cam is who Cam is. He ran the same simple offense at San Diego that he does here and I doubt he will ever change his philosophy. BUT I do think Joe's yards will be the highest hes had yet. I think he could have a 3900 yard season. He won't have more attempts than last season because he actually had high attempts but I think his completion percentage will go back up and thus will have more yards. He'll have some consistency with his receivers and the young receivers will be more comfortable in the offense. I also doubt 10 out of our 12 games will be against top 10 defenses like it was last year.




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    Re: OVER/UNDER 4,000 passing yards for Flacco

    come on people, check the stats and stop with the blame Cam bandwagon. Flacco had more attempts last year than a lot of very good QBs but his completion percentage was under 60%. He was #10 in the league in attempts but other than Colt McCoy, you have to go all the way down to Blaine Gabbert to find someone with a worse percentage.

    It's about accuracy and receivers who can catch the ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    I think it will be close to 4K on one side or the other. To me the difference is improving on the dropped passes. They had plenty of attempts and got close but too many drops. And blame the OC if you want to but they were a dropped pass away from the SB and this team is a smash mouth team first and foremost (although that's evolving).

    They didn't sign the highest paid FB in the league to go pass happy IMO
    They sure didn't use him in the way that they had probably thought about using him though. How many passes to the flat for no gain did they send Vonta Leach on?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    come on people, check the stats and stop with the blame Cam bandwagon. Flacco had more attempts last year than a lot of very good QBs but his completion percentage was under 60%. He was #10 in the league in attempts but other than Colt McCoy, you have to go all the way down to Blaine Gabbert to find someone with a worse percentage.

    It's about accuracy and receivers who can catch the ball.
    It has nothing to do with how many attempts Flacco had. The problem is the scheme and the overall offensive philosophy. Cam has never had a QB throw more than 3600 yards and change. That includes Brees, Rivers, and Flacco.

    I agree that there were a lot of problems in the passing game that were not directly related to Cam, but when you have receivers running the same routes every single game with little-to-no variation then it's going to make it that much harder for Flacco to capitalize on those attempts. Likewise, it's going to be that much more difficult for Boldin or Torrey or whoever to make a play on those passes because they're not designed to get receivers into space. There were A LOT of contested passes last year.

    I'm not going to say that it is impossible for Flacco to go for over 4000 yards this coming season, but I sincerely see it as being highly unlikely. Especially if the ground-n-pound is really working. A big reason why Flacco had so many attempts last year is because the running game couldn't get going. If the running game gets going this year, Flacco won't be asked to throw the ball nearly as much.
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    Re: OVER/UNDER 4,000 passing yards for Flacco

    Cant fault the qb's completion % when his wr's run a route tree straight out of a 1967 playbook.




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    If it makes you feel better to put the blame on someone else and make excuses, have at it.
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    Re: OVER/UNDER 4,000 passing yards for Flacco

    It all depends on what the weapons around him do.... Flacco will probably never put up numbers like Bress/Manning/Brady with the weapons he has.

    That said, i could see him stepping over 4000 yards if a guy like Torrey Smith decides to show out and go over a thousand receiving...

    I think it all depends on the weapons around him. guys that go over 4000 yards usually have incredible players around them.

    I cant say over or under becuase i dont know what we're gonna get out of our receivers.
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    Rivers had 10 more completions in the same offense last year but 1000 more yards. Get Flacco some weapons and his stats will be there. He can make the throws
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    Re: OVER/UNDER 4,000 passing yards for Flacco

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    If it makes you feel better to put the blame on someone else and make excuses, have at it.
    Haha...just so you know, im not emtionally invested in what flacco's completion % is.

    But surely you know that there other factors that go into it besides just the qb.




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    Re: OVER/UNDER 4,000 passing yards for Flacco

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    Rivers had 10 more completions in the same offense last year but 1000 more yards. Get Flacco some weapons and his stats will be there. He can make the throws
    Saying that the chargers run the same offense as the ravens is like saying the browns run the same offense as bill walsh's 49ers. Same in theory, but norv turner has won 3 sb's with his offense, cameron/0.

    I agree with what you say about getting joe some weopons.




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    Re: OVER/UNDER 4,000 passing yards for Flacco

    "I don't look at statistics" John Constantine Unitas

    But, too answer the poll question OVER. The Ravens will pass more this season cause they will have to come from behind more. Tougher schedule, will need more points.




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    Re: OVER/UNDER 4,000 passing yards for Flacco

    Quote Originally Posted by ballhawk View Post
    You assume that suggs will be back, and even if he does come back it will be way late in the season and he will be nowhere near 100%. Basically we have lost almost half of our front 7, our DC, and a couple very important role players (zib, nak). What happens if reed or pollard go down for an extended period? At the moment, 2012 looks as much a rebuilding year for this D as any other year since 2002. I dont think the D will look anywhere as dominant as 2011...i sincerelly hope im wrong.

    And dont get me wrong...i like the new guys coming up and trust the entire organization as far as infusing the team with defensive talent..just have to temper my expectations for this year.
    I think we where going to have to lose our older players at some point. I honestly believe that the Ravens had no intentions to re sign Redding or JJ. We will be fine, we have dealt with the loss of Reed and won, and like I said, you cannot call this a rebuilding defense when we have the players we do, even without Suggs. This is nothing like 2002.

    Haruki and Zibby where only important because they where our only real back up safeties. We signed a back up, and drafted a young promising safety to replace them. I think Christian Thompson could be better than both Haruki and Zibby, he is bigger, stronger and more athletic.




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