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05-16-2012, 03:53 PM #14
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It would be my contention that churches will become obsolete within a few generations pretty much no matter what they do. I think religion in the near future will be a television/internet thing to the minority still interested in it. Church, and religion in general is far less important to those under roughly 40 years of age then those above that age.
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Re: The Gay Thread cont.
You really need think outside your highly partisan box sometimes.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/15/us...-politics.html
Sixty-seven percent of those surveyed by The New York Times and CBS News since the announcement said they thought that Mr. Obama had made it “mostly for political reasons,” while 24 percent said it was “mostly because he thinks it is right.” Independents were more likely to attribute it to politics, with nearly half of Democrats agreeing.
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05-16-2012, 07:17 PM #16
Yeah...its a reflex action on my part when I notice someone discussing american social issues that is not American to quickly defend America as not so backwards. I have spent a lot of time abroad in my life and the questions always come up about Americans odd relationship with sex and some other social issues. I don't think the majority of Americans are homophobic or even antigay or really even think about it too much. Of course, I have always lived on the east coast, around cities and around progressive people and institutions.
The percentage of teenagers that are bisexual or at least open about it has increased dramatically in the past decade and their comfort discussing same sex relationships is really astonishing. Of course the older generations are still openly condemning it but my point earlier about college-aged kids and younger is that it is rapidly changing and religious institutions will need to adapt to their perspectives or else become a thing of the past. There are a lot more nondenominational churches springing up that are more tolerant of different views which will probably absorb a lot of the younger folks as they come of age.
Sent from my DROID4 using Tapatalk 2Last edited by Galen Sevinne; 05-16-2012 at 07:32 PM.
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05-16-2012, 08:29 PM #17
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05-17-2012, 10:53 AM #18
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05-17-2012, 11:13 AM #19
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05-19-2012, 01:45 PM #20
Re: The Gay Thread cont.
It's an educated guess, that i find curious that anyone would oppose???
I personally know only a single person my age or younger(32) that intentionally, regularly attends church or temple on a regular basis. Interestingly, the majority of people I know above my age are regular attnedees. I do however know a fair ammount of holiday attnedees, and even a fair ammount of typicallly non practicers that follow practices such as fasting on Yom Kippur.
So while my sample size is small and likely tainted, the difference between 50+% over 40 and far under 10% under 40 are pretty glaring... I'm sure the real numbers are closer, but by how much?
Do you have stats you would like to share? And there is no point in looking at those under the age of 18, whom have no say in whether they attend or not. I am only concerned about those between say 18-40. I'd even be interested in historical numbers for that age group in case you have data to suggest many of my contemporaries are more likely to attend once their age increases. Also of note is that my sample includes single people, married people, those with families, gay, straight, Muslim, Jewish, accross multiple races though skews towards white, straight and either Jewish or Christian. Geographically, my sample exists generally from this area northeast into southeastern Canada.
The lone weekly practicioner I know is an Orthodox Jew, born in Israel who only returned to weekly temple after starting a family. I do know his wife, so I guess that makes it two.Last edited by jonboy79; 05-19-2012 at 01:55 PM.
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05-20-2012, 04:24 PM #21
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It's not an "educated guess". It's supposition based on a tiny data sample.
I'd say that 60% of the people I know who don't go to my church, go to a church. Of course we have to factor in where I live and the fact I never hang out with democrats, so the folks I know tend to be the group that attends church anyway.
Yeah older people tend to go to church more. It's a routine you fall into that you just don't think about when you're younger. Once you get a job and stop partying on Friday and Saturday nights it's much easier to get up on Sundays. I didn't start going regularly until I was 30, though my wife has always gone."A moron, a rapist, and a Pittsburgh Steeler walk into a bar. He sits down and says, “Hi I’m Ben may I have a drink please?”
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05-21-2012, 03:57 PM #22Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: The Gay Thread cont.
I was actually wondering about this. It would be interesting to see if this generally assumed idea was true, or if it has more to do with Generation Y/Z being more averse to religion in general. It's probably a combination of the two. We'll see in 20 years if the current generation goes back to church when they're clock is running out and they want more stability for their family, or if our society is outgrowing religion in general.
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05-21-2012, 09:24 PM #24
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Not that I've run across.
Again, you have to take into account where I live. Down here democrats neatly fit into a fringe society that the rest of us treat like lepers. You've seen "The Blind Side". Where the guy says, "Who'd have thought we'd have a black son before we knew a democrat?" is a pretty good summation. I work in academia so I do actually know more than one or two, but none of 'em go to church. I don't know if Nicki knows any democrats."A moron, a rapist, and a Pittsburgh Steeler walk into a bar. He sits down and says, “Hi I’m Ben may I have a drink please?”
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