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05-15-2012, 07:40 PM #1
The Gay Thread cont.
not sure why the other one was shut down. Nothing worse than typing a response and submitting to "Thread Locked". I didn't see any name calling...not that we aren't all adults here but I digress. Alas...I remember the wild west days of the political forum where words were free and liberty was cheap...
It's changing here in the states...slowly but is changing. The reaction to Obama's statement is very telling as to what this country believes. A couple years ago, you would have seen a stronger reaction against Obama. It would have been couched as a "war on marriage" and a "tearing of the social fabric" blah blah blah but really the only thing the conservatives are trying to stick to the wall here is that was some type of "political play" on Obama's part. There is a big difference in "war on marriage" and "political play". It speaks volumes on the increasing comfort that moderate America feels on gay relationships. The most ironic part of the whole "political play" talking point is that the connies then turn around and say how it will negatively affect Obama. How does that work????
That being said, there will always be the extreme side of the argument that see the devil's work in homosexuality and caste it as a pathology or a choice.
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Re: The Gay Thread cont.
It seems to me that the reason why what the POTUS said isn't "blowing people's minds" is because a lot of Americans just don't really care anymore.
Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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05-15-2012, 10:42 PM #3
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Re: The Gay Thread cont.
Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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05-16-2012, 07:42 AM #5
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05-16-2012, 02:39 PM #8
Re: The Gay Thread cont.
There is also an increasing number of non-traditional churches as well. If and when Gay Marriage is legal, I would hope that a "business" would be born for non-traditional churches to perform such services. I'm sure many churches would still cringe at the thought, and, IMO, that is ENTIRELY within their rights.
For the record, I don't think there are very many people who think gay couples shouldn't be allowed to share health insurance, file taxes as "married" or have power of attourney and other such legal benefits. I think almost all of the pushback is the desire to use the word marriage, and potentially the "attmepts" to strongarm unwilling churches into the practice.
I think the true evolution and completeion of this discussion should lead the government to insert the word civil union in place of marriage in all documents, and return that word to the religious institutions. thus, they could reinvent the idea from a legal perspective with little to no backlash from those clutching their bibles. Win/Win. I see no harm in this compromise to anyone.
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05-16-2012, 03:23 PM #10
Churches will marry gay people in a decade without problems because society as a whole will no longer have a problem with it. Churches are the canary in the coal mine when it comes to the morality of the general society. With a younger generation coming into adulthood not carrying the bigotry of the preceding generation, even churches will change or else they will become obsolete .
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05-16-2012, 03:37 PM #11
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Re: The Gay Thread cont.
And it's not my intention to bash Americans, I know that's not what you are getting at, I just want to say it for myself. I fully appreciated that the vocal anti-gay marriage/uncomfortable with homosexuality element is not representative of American society as a whole, and the greater disinterest in the whole issue is oddly comforting in that it does suggest people are just realising it's not that big a deal.
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