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Thread: Ray Rice moving Forward
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05-13-2012, 10:55 AM #13Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Ray Rice moving Forward
I believe the Ravens can get a 1st for rice because his contract wont be as big as a WRs and he is a proved player where a rookie RB is not proven.
It will be very risky for rice to play this year under the tag and I do not see the Ravens letting him walk next year without a 1st rounder or a low 2nd and 3rd. He would me smart to take a deal simmilar to Foster or maybe a bit higher once July comes along. We are still in May so no need for anyone to budge yet. Once July 1 is here Oz and Pat will be on the phone with Rice and his agent and hopefully rice twice a day to get a deal done.
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05-13-2012, 10:56 AM #14Regular 1st Stringer
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Can we at least all agree if he plays this year under the tag the Ravens wont let him walk with out getting something in return? They would tag him again and work out a sign and trade like we did with boldin with a team that needs a proven RB
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05-13-2012, 02:21 PM #15Pro Bowl Poster
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I'm sure that ideally the Ravens would like to do that if they can't get a deal done with him but there are two problems with that. #1 - How much will they get for him? I still don't think they'll get a 1st rd pick for him. But the bigger problem is #2....What if they can't get a deal done with Flacco by next off season? Either the Ravens offer below what he's worth or Flacco's agent plays hardball. Then you have to choose between the two who to franchise and I doubt it will be Rice.
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05-13-2012, 03:15 PM #16
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05-13-2012, 03:25 PM #17Regular 1st Stringer
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I always wondered, with the sums of money these guys are playing for, what's a few million either way? Then again with the sheer number of former NFL players bankrupt, I guess they need every penny they can get
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Re: Ray Rice moving Forward
How many franchise tagged players have you ever seen traded. I can think of 1 in 20 years. That was Matt Cassel who went for a 2nd round pick and it hasn't exactly worked out well for the Chiefs. If they can't get Rice signed and he plays a typical Rice year they'll tag him again in 2013 and then let him hit the market.
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05-13-2012, 06:11 PM #19Regular 1st Stringer
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05-13-2012, 06:19 PM #20Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Ray Rice moving Forward
What specific team would even give up a first round pick for Ray Rice, let alone a first and third round pick?
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05-13-2012, 11:16 PM #22Legendary RSR Poster
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05-14-2012, 12:22 AM #23Veteran Poster
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Re: Ray Rice moving Forward
Teams will not be willing to part with a 1st rounder and pay him more money than Arian Foster received in his contract. If he is not signed this off season he will more than likely be franchised with the intent of trading him or the team will let him walk away. If they do trade him after this season I am guessing they would at best get a 2nd rounder or maybe a 3rd and a 5th. If the team could not get it done this year when they desperately needed to free up cap space I can't see them getting it done next year.
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05-14-2012, 10:26 AM #24
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Re: Ray Rice moving Forward
The franchise tag number on a QB is going to be upwards of 15 million. Probably more once Brees gets under contract. The Ravens have every incentive to get Flacco under contract and they also have more time. They can negotiate with Flacco into the season. I have no doubt in my mind that they get something done before franchising Flacco becomes an option. The franchise number for a QB is just to large.
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