Re: joe flacco #74 on nfl network top 100
No, I'm saying that one of the biggest reasons - or most logical reason - for Laurent Robinson's production was because he wasn't (A) the #1 receiver on an offense that favors the pass over the run and (B) he was healthy for the entire season, which is something that IIRC he hasn't been EVER in his career to date.
Originally Posted by Haloti92
I don't use stats at all to argue a good receiver vs a bad receiver. It's symbiotic, so obviously a receiver with Peyton Manning on the other end of the ball is going to have a higher probability of putting up "good numbers" versus a receiver who has John Beck throwing him the ball. However, I'm looking at it from the other end of the spectrum. The Ravens' receivers have historically just not been very good. It's not that they're bad players, per se, but they don't necessarily fit the scheme and the Ravens have historically not been very good at developing receivers and/or drafting talented receivers. To date, Torrey Smith is the only receiver the Ravens have drafted that looks the part. Derrick Mason and Anquan Boldin were seasoned vets before even putting on a Ravens uniform. I think a lot of it has to do with scheme and if Jason Garrett were the offensive coordinator here in Baltimore, then maybe we'd likely see the receivers putting up better numbers, but right now they're not and I don't think there is any fan who would say no to trading Boldin for Dez Bryant or Miles Austin straight up. Why? Because they're better players. They're younger, bigger, & faster. It's pretty plain and simple from my perspective.
You're right. What was I thinking? Who cares if a guy can't find ways to win games as long as he throws for 5000 yards and 30 TD's in a season, right? What do people have to say about Dan Marino? "He's the best QB to never win a Super Bowl". What do people say about Trent Dilfer? "Super Bowl QB." I've even heard Marino say that he'd give up all of his stats for a title.
At the end of the day the W's and L's argument when describing individuals is stupid
, for all the reasons given multiple times on this forum and elsewhere. Romo has choked a few times but that moniker, much like P. Manning's is overdone; many times people ignore the fact Romo gave the team the lead in the first place with his 90-100 QB rating, before the rare "choke". We have no idea what happens if Romo and Flacco switched places, but I can tell you with 100% confidence that if the Ravens defense and the Cowboys defense switched places, we don't win against Houston in the playoffs, nor do we win about 4-5 other games last year; and likewise Dallas wins a handful more games easily.
The Ravens defense allowed the Texans back into that playoff game by letting Arian Foster run all over them. If the Texans had Matt Schaub instead of a late round developmental rookie, I think it would have been an entirely different game. Even against a defense that had ridiculous pressure and had 5 sacks on the day, Flacco still found ways to put points on the board and not make costly turnovers. Who led the Ravens back to a W in Pittsburgh after that vaunted Ravens defense let the Steelers take the lead?
Who had their team up 27-3 in the 3rd quarter and threw pick-6's on back-to-back drives to let the Lions back into the game heading into the 4th quarter?
If you put Joe Flacco on the Cowboys of last year I bet they're a playoff team and Flacco probably throws for well over 4000 yards. Not even necessarily because of the receivers, but the offensive philosophy is so geared towards the pass and in Baltimore it's not.
I respect your opinion, but I don't agree with it at all.
I'll take a guy who finds ways to win over a guy with pretty numbers any day of the week.
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