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Re: Obama about to announce support of marriage rights for all?
You're missing the point. He is saying no one gets married except in religious ceremony's regardless of gender, and everyone get's a civil union as far as the government is concerned.
And if you think Mitt Romney is a flip-flopper consider this:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ht_644238.html
And now we know why he changed his mind. Presidential leadership my ass.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...sl8T_blog.htmlLast edited by NCRAVEN; 05-09-2012 at 05:07 PM. Reason: Added story
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05-09-2012, 05:24 PM #14
You guys are wrong. You can get legally "married" by a judge without ever stepping into a church or talking with a person of god. The idea that the word "married" is somehow exclusive to church, god or anything religious is simply incorrect.
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Re: Obama about to announce support of marriage rights for all?
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05-09-2012, 07:17 PM #16
So you think I shouldn't be able to be married? So basically your point is that religion and in this case, christian religion, should regulate all marriages? Or should i have acted like i think there is a god for an hour and endured all the suggestions that we should act good because there is this guy up on a cloud somewhere watching? Or should i go to a judge for whom i respect, and have her marry us in a secular ceremony? Christianity doesn't have have exclusive rights to the word marriage. Truthfully, i am considering changing the wording of our union to exlude "marriage" until everyone can be married equally because I think it is wrong for me to assume a title because of some heterosexual privilege. In fact i would like to start a movement for all people who believe in equality of people to divorce and be "civilly unioned". In time the word marriage will become associated with the bigotry of the good ol christian homophobics. Then they can have the word until it fades into atrophy.
Obama risks losing votes over this. The gay community knows he has always supported marriage equality and there is nothing romney will verbalize that will be more appealing than Obama's position prior to his interview today. Obama risks losing african american vote of those who have problems with gays. It is certainly more potential to lose votes than gain. Of course, the leadership he has shown to take a controversial but correct position might work for him since romney hasnt taken a postion on anything ever that lasted for more than an election cycle.
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05-09-2012, 07:22 PM #17Legendary RSR Poster
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Yawn.
Marriage shouldn't even be something the government sanctions. Gay, straight or otherwise. If two consenting adults want to marry, then they should be allowed without government intrusion or approval.
It's a cheap political trick and the timing of it couldn't be more suspect.
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Re: Obama about to announce support of marriage rights for all?
Nice try. Please go through where anyone is trying to turn this into a debate about Christianity other than you.
And yet again you're pretending to play stupid. You know damn well I am not saying religion should regulate marriages, but the EXACT OPPOSITE, if people wanted to be recognized in government it needs to be separate. Did you read the thread?
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05-09-2012, 08:06 PM #20
If it's a political trick then that implies that legal same-sex marriage has popular support, which implies that all politicians should embrace the same view. I think Republicans wasted an opportunity to get on the right side of this issue over the last 3 years while Obama "evolved".
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Re: Obama about to announce support of marriage rights for all?
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Re: Obama about to announce support of marriage rights for all?
Romney is vs it just like a good Mormon.
Meanwhile, OBY loses 41% of the W. VA presidential primary to an inmate and he's even qualified to have a delegation at the DEMs convention just for getting 15% of it and he's in jail.
So much for leadership. Voters in W. VA almost prefer an inmate.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Electio...federal-inmateLast edited by AirFlacco; 05-09-2012 at 11:13 PM.
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05-09-2012, 08:45 PM #23Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Obama about to announce support of marriage rights for all?
Give kudos to Gawker. They are calling the Prez's BS.
They accurately point out the nuance in his stance. He's hardly supporting it as a "right". He's saying they "should" be allowed to marry. Galen pulled the trigger too soon.
http://gawker.com/5909002/barack-oba...e-announcement
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Re: Obama about to announce support of marriage rights for all?
Now this is leadership Galen.
Man, talk about Palin being confused and this is a Harvard grad.
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Q: “Let me ask you, let me interrupt and ask you a very quick follow-up question. Do you believe homosexuality is a choice?”
OBAMA: “No. I don't. I--I—I…”
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Kudos to the Hamster. This thread is blowing up in Galen's face. :)
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ht_644238.htmlLast edited by AirFlacco; 05-09-2012 at 09:00 PM.
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