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    Re: What do we think of Florio's article?



    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    It would take a culture shift to change the popularity of the NFL. That's what happened with baseball and boxing. Baseball is seen by many as too slow and dull. Boxing is corrupt which makes it tough to buy into. Those sports lost their popularity because of shift in attitude by the consumers.

    I don't see concussions turning NFL fans off. Every year the ratings seem to get bigger and bigger as more people watch even with these news reports.
    I don't think it's the corruption of boxing that turned people off, I think it's the blood sport nature of it. I know that's why *I'm* not interested in boxing, or the MMA. It's just kind of gross to watch these half dressed men try to injure each other into submission.

    Yes, people watch the MMA (and boxing), but there's a reason NASCAR is more popular (it is, right?) even though that's just people driving and turning left.

    Quoting rock's greatest songwriter here:

    They made hypocrite judgments
    After the fact
    The name of the game
    Is be hit and hit back.

    And we are all the "hypocrites." The owners, the players, the fans, who love the sport even though the game is too tough for the flesh and blood players.

    I was so pleased to see Pollard's quotes. That guy has some giant brass balls to lay it out the way he did. Good for him. May he retire sooner rather than later and be as healthy as possible.
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    Re: What do we think of Florio's article?

    Was listening to a Frank DeFord interview today where he reiterated his stance that soccer is such a boring sport compared to American sports and he doesn't think this country will ever embrace it if we have not already. He talked about how every kid grows up playing it (ie, the soccer mom culture) but nearly all move on to become fans of other sports. Football, by contrast, according to DeFord, is just more interesting, and part of what makes in so is its inherent violence.

    He went on to point out that in his opinion Goodell is not disingenuous in saying they want to make the game safer, but it may be impossible to do. It's not like the NFL plays a version of the game that is so different that it becomes unsafe. Yes, they are bigger and faster and hit harder, but it's the same game they play in college, high school and Pop Warner and he pointed out that there are "millions of concussions" happening every year at those levels, too.

    I'll add that you hear a lot of NFL players saying they won't let their kids start playing football.

    It may be an issue that's beyond the NFL to fix.




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    Re: What do we think of Florio's article?

    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Raven View Post
    I watched Lions and Saints in the playoffs last year and while it was high scoring I wouldn't call it a good game.
    To pick a non Ravens game, one of the best games I saw last year was Browns-Steelers.
    Game where McCoy got hurt, Senneca Wallace came in, final score 13-9 Steelers.
    That was an incredible game. Great D, nervous, tight and lots of tension, AFC North football I suppose.
    If casual fans are not satisfied unless they see lots of scores and long bomb passes then that's unfortunate, I hope they try to get into the sport a bit more.
    Hey Irish, IIRC didn't the Browns replace Wallace with McCoy late in the game when it made no sense? Wasn't Wallace doing pretty well while McCoy had his bell rung? If so, leave it to the Browns to to allow victory to slip through their fingers once more... Bc




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    Yes BcRaven, you're remembered that exactly

    We will never know if Senneca Wallace could have lead the Browns to the winning score but he looked very good for the short time he was in.
    And then the Browns put a concussed McCoy back in and they lose the game. Ah Cleveland
    Not blaming the player here, that's for the coaches and trainers to make that call

    Still a cracking game, AFC North football at its best


    A shame for the fans who want fifty points and sixty yard passes every game, entertainment is not just about arcade style scores, it's also about tight nervous games which leave you exhausted as a fan afterwards




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    The Academy Award goes to Jamal Lewis

    Turn on Outside the Lines and see why.

    They ALL want a piece of that lawsuit pie! Free money to replace the money you have blown post retirement!!

    Edit - nevermind they played the clip already.

    Basically Jamal was answering a question just fine and then all of the sudden he "can't remember" what they asked him and had to have asked what the question was again. Of course this was a result of the numerous concussions he suffered, that just happened to manifest itself at that very moment on camera!!

    Give me a break.
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    Re: The Academy Award goes to Jamal Lewis

    Ain't that the truth. Many smell money and want their share
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    Re: The Academy Award goes to Jamal Lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Ain't that the truth. Many smell money and want their share
    That is all it is a big money grab, all these former players are just seeing dollar signs. Many of them are broke and it isn't costing them a penny, so why not!

    They are hoping the NFL just settles and they get a new Benz in the driveway.

    If I hear sensitivity to light, memory loss or lack of sleep one more time I am going to throw up. They all got the talking points and every one is saying the same exact thing right out of the "symptoms of a concussion" playbook.




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    Re: The Academy Award goes to Jamal Lewis

    Was this the clip you saw?

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7536645

    If so, it's an older one. But still very relevant.
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    Re: The Academy Award goes to Jamal Lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Was this the clip you saw?

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7536645

    If so, it's an older one. But still very relevant.

    Video won't load but I would guess yes.

    I only watched about a minute afterwards, and had to turn it off when Lomas Brown claimed that he has social anxiety and has fear of large crowds because of all the trauma he has suffered. It should be noted that the host could be heard laughing in the background as he said this, true story.




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    Re: The Academy Award goes to Jamal Lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by TheJoeFlaccoShow View Post
    Video won't load but I would guess yes.

    I only watched about a minute afterwards, and had to turn it off when Lomas Brown claimed that he has social anxiety and has fear of large crowds because of all the trauma he has suffered. It should be noted that the host could be heard laughing in the background as he said this, true story.
    Yeah, I think it's the same.

    Lewis should be ashamed. Awful, opportunistic gesture on his part and it cheapens the debate of a serious issue that does effect many ex-players.
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    Re: The Academy Award goes to Jamal Lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by TheJoeFlaccoShow View Post
    ... They ALL want a piece of that lawsuit pie! Free money to replace the money you have blown post retirement!!
    You are so right! Turn on TV and see the ads for lawyers today "Have you been injured? You may be entitled to a large settlement!" They goad people into suing because they know there's no negative impact on them if they lose...which they rarely do because companies would rather settle than go to court in a multi-million dollar lawsuit. Every football player knows there is a risk of injury, but they put that aside for (IMO) two reasons : (1) they feel they're young and indestructible (2) the money is so BIG. "RISK / REWARD" is part of life, so why should they be immune to it? ... Bc




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    Quote Originally Posted by srobert96 View Post
    I am cynical about linking concussions to suicide. I think you would have to look at the rate by which other athletes who suffer similar head trauma commit suicide. You rarely hear about hockey players and or boxers committing suicide.
    Boxing:

    http://content.usatoday.com/communit...de-in-a-year/1

    Hockey players get concussions, but they aren't subjected to all of the non-concussive hits that football players absorb. Those repeated hits, in some cases a thousand or more per year, are what appear to be causing a lot of the damage.




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    Re: The Academy Award goes to Jamal Lewis

    Maybe one day John Grisham will write a book on all this

    He's a great man for entertaining stories about lawyers and lawsuits.




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    Re: What do we think of Florio's article?

    Quote Originally Posted by moose10101 View Post
    Boxing:

    http://content.usatoday.com/communit...de-in-a-year/1

    Hockey players get concussions, but they aren't subjected to all of the non-concussive hits that football players absorb. Those repeated hits, in some cases a thousand or more per year, are what appear to be causing a lot of the damage.
    The NHL also went with an anti-concussion lining to all helmets, something the NFLPA has been fighting for a few years.

    Eli Manning and DeSean Jackson are the only two players I am aware of that are wearing them on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    The NHL also went with an anti-concussion lining to all helmets, something the NFLPA has been fighting for a few years.

    Eli Manning and DeSean Jackson are the only two players I am aware of that are wearing them on their own.
    I heard a doctor talking about this very subject, and he explained that it doesn't matter what you do to the helmet it won't help with concussions. He said the modern helmet(and every one before it) is designed to prevent skull fractures and the like, and there is nothing you can do to stop the brain from oscillating inside the skull which is what happens with a concussion.

    You can have all the padding, all the technology you want inside the helmet but the impact from a hit and the brain jarring itself inside the skull just can't be prevented. Obviously a better helmet couldn't hurt but it does very little to help it just isn't possible with the nature of the injury.

    He explained it much better than I could if that doesn't make sense.




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