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05-05-2012, 03:02 PM #145
Re: Saints Player Suspensions Announced
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05-05-2012, 03:17 PM #146Veteran Poster
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Re: Saints Player Suspensions Announced
Oh yes, Vilma deserves punishment for sure. For violating several league rules, and possibly covering up and lying about his involvement. But he isn't guilty of condoning assault with a deadly weapon or condoning attempted mass murder. Nor would I say he necessarily (from what I have heard, admitting that I do not know what the NFL has by way of evidence any more than anyone else) is guilty of condoning cheap shots or illegal hits. Nor would I say that the number of people (both playing the game and fans of the game) who would accept as plausible his claim that all he was intending to incentivize was big legal hits is small.
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05-05-2012, 03:22 PM #147
Re: Saints Player Suspensions Announced
while your correct i shouldnt have used the examples i did, because they in no way relate to a football tackle, i was just trying to get through the point that even though he may not have been an offender in deliberatly trying to injure a person, and instigator (as in the examples i used) are part and even more so the problem
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05-05-2012, 07:31 PM #148
Re: Saints Player Suspensions Announced
This all seems very black and white to me. They all deserve what they got except Vilma, Williams and Payton,...which all should of gotten lifetime bans.
::Flacco Superstar::
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05-17-2012, 03:28 PM #149
Re: Saints Player Suspensions Announced
Vilma is suing Roger Goodell for defamation, he "made public statements concerning Vilma which were false, defamatory and injurious to Vilma’s professional and personal reputation"
Does this mean he isnt actually challenging his suspension?
can someone elaborate a bit on the details of this
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05-17-2012, 04:38 PM #150
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05-17-2012, 05:11 PM #151Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Saints Player Suspensions Announced
This ain't going to go anywhere and, quite frankly, is very sad. Sounds a lot like a shakedown, designed to get a quick pay out.
Vilma is going to have a hard time arguing that he isn't a public figure. And if Goodell believes that the case, facts and evidence leads him to believe that Vilma did do these things, then he's acting in good faith and free of defamation.
And what injury has Vilma suffered from Goodell speaking about the investigation and it's findings?
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05-18-2012, 11:07 AM #152Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: Saints Player Suspensions Announced
Let's try to clear things up. I believe the suspension of Vilma is too long. Secondly, I believe that the claims of Vilma intentionally trying to hurt/injure someone are blown way out of proportion. I maintain that in most if not all NFL locker rooms there is (or was anyway) a money pool. Players try to hit other players as hard as they possibly can in an effort to knock them out of the game. What I am not convinced of, is that the money pot led to any kind of increase of illegal hits that normally wouldn't occur. For that kind of suspension I would need to see illegal hits that can be traced back to Vilma's monetary encouragement. I would also like to see punishment of the player who actually delivered the illegal hit similar to that of Vilma's. Has any Saint player been suspended anywhere near 1 full year of service for an illegal hit?
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