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05-03-2012, 11:04 AM #61Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?
Nice example.
/sarcasm.
This is almost exactly like your Russell Wilson infatuation. You get fixed on something and then when a bunch of posters come and point out different things, perspectives, and *gasp* FACTS to you, you become this childish person who essentially posts a bunch of drivel that (at it's core) equates to absolutely nothing and has no meaning. You purposely disregard these things because you can't be wrong.
People wanted to bring up Jacoby Jones as a potential kick/punt returner option. Even in another thread prior to the Texans releasing him I said he'd be interesting because he is very fast, tall, and when he hangs onto the ball isn't a bad returner. However, post-release from the Texans his agent eluded to Jones wanting to go to a team where he'd be a bigger part of the offense than what he was in Houston. This is a problem for a few reasons. The first being that he had every opportunity to be a big part of the Texans' offense and even when lined up across from arguably one of the top 3 receivers in the game for the past FIVE seasons the best he could muster up was 562 yards in a season. If he is such a good player (as you seem to feel that he is/could be) then why did the Texans cut him for 2 rookie receivers without even letting him compete for a roster spot? The answer is he's just not that good of a player and the Texans weren't going to keep him regardless. So, either he or his agent (or both) are delusional to a certain degree. The second reason is that if he's looking to be a bigger part of a team's offense that almost undoubtedly means that he's going to want to get a fair amount of money. Probably not top tier money, but more than what he's worth and what his NFL production is worth.
More importantly, if you've watched him play (short of a handful of games where he did play very well) he's not physical at all and in the AFC North against the Steelers and Bengals you NEED to be physical at WR. He's not, he's never been that type of a player, and at 27/28 years old it's likely that he'll never be that kind of a receiver. Now, if Cam utilized 3 or 4 WR sets often designed to get specific receivers into open zones where they aren't going after contested passes, then Jones might make a little sense. However - as you and I both know - Cam rarely uses more than 2 receivers at a time and almost never uses 4. So, why would Jones even want to come here? Furthermore, why would the Ravens (who have very little cap space at all) want to sign and spend for someone who's not a good fit schematically for the Ravens?
Finally, if you're really concerned with the kick/punt returner position (which I adamantly contend that you are not because Jacoby Jones is not the best FA returner available at the moment) then you'd be looking at guys like Stefan Logan who would be a fraction of the cost and would have little to no aspirations to be anything more than a kick/punt returner. Logan averaged nearly 5 yards more per kick return last year. Another better option as a kick/punt returner (mostly kick) is Jerious Norwood, who has a career average of over 25 yards per kick return AND he'd fulfill a potential depth RB position as well. Again, he'd be significantly less expensive than Jacoby Jones.
Oh, and uh...here's your hammer: :hammer:Last edited by wickedsolo; 05-03-2012 at 11:36 AM.
Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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05-03-2012, 12:06 PM #63Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?
Mommathurgoesthatman:
Since you seem to think that I didn't say that early on in this thread here is a recap...
Post #2 in this thread...
You even responded to this and said Carolina might be a good option as well. By my questioning his ability to be mentally tough enough to hang in the AFC North is absolutely founded when you look at the body of work he's put together. Knowing that Pittsburgh and Cinci are to major obstacles and play very physical games, how would Jones be able to deal with that kind if physicality? Odds are - based on how he plays - he wouldn't be able to. Physically he's got the tools to be a good receiver, but there is more than just being physically fit and a good size...especially when it comes to rivalries like the Ravens/Steelers.
Post #12 in this thread...
I identified early on in this thread that Jacoby Jones isn't a good fit for the Ravens and what they're trying to achieve offensively.
Post #22 in this thread...
Again, I'm pointing out my position that Jones would be a liability on offense and on special teams against the Steelers. I'm not talking about any current or former Ravens or anyone else. I'm talking about Jacoby Jones and how he'd fit in (or not fit in) with the Ravens.
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...And here I go again pointing out that in the AFC North against physical teams with physical and aggressive defenses there is a high probability that Jones just really wouldn't be successful.
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As you can see (maybe you didn't read those posts although considering you quoted/responded to at least one of them I feel that you did read them) I have clearly stated in several posts in as many ways as possible why I (my opinion based on his production in the NFL) do not think Jacoby Jones is a good fit for the Ravens and even though I don't think he's a bad player, I just think he'd be another expensive & wasted free agent acquisition.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?
So far so good.
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Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?
These Texans guys really like finding their treasures in Baltimore.
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10-17-2012, 08:59 PM #67Veteran Poster
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Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?
I think being a top organization has a lot to do with really respecting other organizations ability to find talent. If the Ravens identify that certain teams are grabbing players that they like, it only makes sense to give a shot to players that those teams let go.
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10-18-2012, 04:17 AM #70Legendary RSR Poster
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Thousands of Texans fans are thinking one thing when it comes to Jones ....
"Just wait"
It's Connor Barwin we should be keeping an eye on.
The Texans are going to back up the cash truck in Watt's driveway to keep him and that means they are going to have to deal Barwin to stay under the cap next season.
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Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?
Connor Bawrin hasn't really been having a great year as a pass rusher, one sack, and doesn't seem to be rushing the passer the way he used to.
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10-18-2012, 08:38 AM #72Legendary RSR Poster
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