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    Re: 2012 Draft pick - 6 (198): Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami(FL)



    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    If you keep piling on veterans, the young WRs will never show the production, because they will never have the chance to show the production. It makes for a vicious cycle. Meanwhile, Green Bay is phasing out Donald Driver, while phasing in Jordy Nelson. New England phased out Randy Moss, while phasing in Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez. Pittsburgh phased out Santonio Holmes and Hines Ward, while phasing in Mike Wallace and Antonio Brown.

    Sometimes it work and sometimes it does not, but you never know until you try. That is why you draft these players.
    Ex, I happen to agree with you, but the difference is the the 3 teams you posted (Pack, Pats, Steelers) have already won Super Bowls while the Ravens have not. Our team has to be a little more cautious building a roster than a team that has already given it's city an NFL Championship... Bc




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    Re: 2012 Draft pick - 6 (198): Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami(FL)

    Quote Originally Posted by BcRaven View Post
    Ex, I happen to agree with you, but the difference is the the 3 teams you posted (Pack, Pats, Steelers) have already won Super Bowls while the Ravens have not. Our team has to be a little more cautious building a roster than a team that has already given it's city an NFL Championship... Bc
    Those three teams had established QBs. Flacco is getting there, but the last two years have shown that the WRs need to step up. He is making the throws. They need to catch them and the main culprits in clutch moments have been the veterans that they bring in from other teams.
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    Re: 2012 Draft pick - 6 (198): Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami(FL)

    Quote Originally Posted by Shas View Post

    Woodlawn is right that I don't know for sure that Streeter won't contribute on special teams, but it's hard to see a 6'5" bean pole in that role.
    Kasim Osgood was an annual pro bowler at the exact same size as Streeter.




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    Re: 2012 Draft pick - 6 (198): Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami(FL)

    As predicted, the Ravens brought in a veteran who projects as the #3. According to the Sun today,

    The Ravens also are optimistic about the progress of second-year receivers Tandon Doss and LaQuan Williams, but Jones would give the Ravens a veteran option at the No. 3 wide receiver spot behind Anquan Boldin and Torrey Smith, along with more speed on the outside.
    So if you believe that, and if the Ravens stay the course with five receivers, Streeter becomes the sixth.

    I know.... I know. A few heads will explode here if LaQuan Williams makes the roster over Streeter.




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    Re: 2012 Draft pick - 6 (198): Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami(FL)

    Quote Originally Posted by Shas View Post
    As predicted, the Ravens brought in a veteran who projects as the #3. According to the Sun today,



    So if you believe that, and if the Ravens stay the course with five receivers, Streeter becomes the sixth.

    I know.... I know. A few heads will explode here if LaQuan Williams makes the roster over Streeter.
    David Reed has probably a 98% shot of being on PUP on opening day so there will be 5 slots at least until week 6.




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    Re: 2012 Draft pick - 6 (198): Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami(FL)

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    David Reed has probably a 98% shot of being on PUP on opening day so there will be 5 slots at least until week 6.
    I think he'll be given an injury settlement. 2 season-ending injuries in back-to-back seasons...he just doesn't have an NFL body.
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    Re: 2012 Draft pick - 6 (198): Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami(FL)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenous1 View Post
    Just having fun here but don't you just wish that just once a player would blame god....
    Way off topic . . .

    . . . but where have you been? After Steve Johnson (Buffalo, WR) dropped that game winner in OT vs. Pittsburgh a season ago, he tweeted this:

    I PRAISE YOU 24/7!!!!!! AND THIS HOW YOU DO ME!!!!! YOU EXPECT ME TO LEARN FROM THIS??? HOW???!!! ILL NEVER FORGET THIS!! EVER!!! THX THO...,"




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    Re: 2012 Draft pick - 6 (198): Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami(FL)

    Quote Originally Posted by Shas View Post
    As predicted, the Ravens brought in a veteran who projects as the #3. According to the Sun today,



    So if you believe that, and if the Ravens stay the course with five receivers, Streeter becomes the sixth.

    I know.... I know. A few heads will explode here if LaQuan Williams makes the roster over Streeter.
    Boldin Smith Evans Doss Williams Reed... they carried 6 last year, basically Reed either gets PUP'd or Streeter has to beat out Williams at gunner. Tall order, especially as well as williams played down the stretch. Not impossible, and if he shines in camp im sure they find a way to keep him.
    -JAB




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    Re: 2012 Draft pick - 6 (198): Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami(FL)

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    Each of the consistent winners in this current era of football, PIT, NE, GB, NO, CHI, IND, NYG and PHI have marched out young, unproven WRs and have had success, and there are specific reasons why. We did so last year and remained competitive. We need to keep moving in that direction until our on-roster talent proves it's a bad idea.
    I have no problem with the Jones signing. David Reed has had ample time to prove himself. He is coming off of a season ending injury. Relying on him as a receiver or a returner this season is iffy at best. If Doss is ready to be the 3rd wr he will beat out Jones for the spot. That is what I am hoping happens.




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    Re: 2012 Draft pick - 6 (198): Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami(FL)

    Quote Originally Posted by srobert96 View Post
    David Reed has had ample time to prove himself.
    Maybe. Maybe not. His career has been derailed by injuries, so it's hard to say whether or not he could have been more than what he ended up being. Unfortunate for him, but it looks as thugh the Ravens are moving on.

    I'm not a big fan of the Jacoby Jones signing, but I'm not opposed to it, either. He's now a Raven and I am pulling for him to do well. However, bringing in mid-level players who block the development of younger (and perhaps potentially better) players doesn't thrill me much - but I've learned to live with the risk-adverse theories of the Ravens' coaching staff that seem to permeate the entire organization.

    The old adage is high risk/high reward, low risk/low reward. The Ravens seem to take the latter approach in a lot of these personnel decisions. Maybe someday one will work out better than expected and get them over the hump.




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    Re: 2012 Draft pick - 6 (198): Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami(FL)

    Quote Originally Posted by alien bird View Post
    Way off topic . . .

    . . . but where have you been? After Steve Johnson (Buffalo, WR) dropped that game winner in OT vs. Pittsburgh a season ago, he tweeted this:

    I PRAISE YOU 24/7!!!!!! AND THIS HOW YOU DO ME!!!!! YOU EXPECT ME TO LEARN FROM THIS??? HOW???!!! ILL NEVER FORGET THIS!! EVER!!! THX THO...,"
    Since we're already way off topic ...

    I must say that this is further proof that one should never mix religion with tweeting.
    That should be the First Commandment for Twits That Tweet.
    If you break the rules you can't make the rules.
    - Remove Coach Tomlin from the NFL Competition committee.




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    Re: 2012 Draft pick - 6 (198): Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami(FL)

    It's surprising to me that some are basically ignoring the fact that David Reed shredded his knee late in the season last year.

    Considering the last 3 guys we've brought back from torn ACL's weren't ready at the start of the year and suffered from a significant drop in performance, I don't think people need to be penciling Reed in as on the 53 at the start of the year.

    PUP was made for guys like this...




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    Re: 2012 Draft pick - 6 (198): Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami(FL)

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    It's surprising to me that some are basically ignoring the fact that David Reed shredded his knee late in the season last year.

    Considering the last 3 guys we've brought back from torn ACL's weren't ready at the start of the year and suffered from a significant drop in performance, I don't think people need to be penciling Reed in as on the 53 at the start of the year.

    PUP was made for guys like this...
    From what were hearing hes ahead in recovery and aiming to return to practice in TC. If he practices just once hes not eligible for PUP leaving only IR or being cut as his options. Personally i think it would make sense for him not to push it and come back when hes 100% but a guy fighting for his roster spot may have a different opinion.
    -JAB




  14. #149

    Re: 2012 Draft pick - 6 (198): Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami(FL)

    The same was said of Webb and Fabien 2 years ago and their play suffered.

    While they can play after a year now, guys that shred their knees still need 2 years to fully recover.

    And I think after the Foxworth disaster last year, if they have a brain, they will start him on PUP and leave him there as long as they can. He really isn't needed with the addition of Jones...at least not this year.




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    Re: 2012 Draft pick - 6 (198): Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami(FL)

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    The same was said of Webb and Fabien 2 years ago and their play suffered.

    While they can play after a year now, guys that shred their knees still need 2 years to fully recover.

    And I think after the Foxworth disaster last year, if they have a brain, they will start him on PUP and leave him there as long as they can. He really isn't needed with the addition of Jones...at least not this year.
    They can just move him to IR, get a look at the new/younger guys in 2012 and then proceed in 2013 how they see fit.




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