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    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    One Sun writer said all the AFC-N teams improved themselves but the Ravens. Even
    Bruce said he was trying not to get discouraged with the draft.

    I posted a link on the draft thread that Upshaw dropped because of his short arms and
    might not do as well vs NFL tackles who can wrap them up like they did with Oher's
    short arms at LT.

    The guard is big but - heh. No improvement at that position. He will compete with
    Jah Reid.

    The Center from Delaware might have been the best player in our draft. Piss, NE and
    Ravens had him as the best Center in the draft which is why Ravens passed on Konz
    who had durability issues.

    This reminds me of the Kindle draft. I get scared everytime Ozzie trades down
    into the 2d round - his worse round.
    Since Rice Ozzie has been solid in the 2nd rd with the unforeseen cracking of Kindles skull. I don't think 2nd rd is much of a weakness as it has been.




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    I'll be back here in the winter of 2015 to properly evaluate this class




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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiepoe View Post
    very good draft when your needs are big uglies and quality back-ups. Streeter could be a real steal . . . did he really run a 4.4???!
    If he has hands, Joe can direct a few laser beams his way.
    Streeter needs to be standing in front of a jugs machine right the f--- now!




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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    Streeter needs to be standing in front of a jugs machine right the f--- now!
    okay, you're making me me feel old . . . wtf is a "jugs machine"???




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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiepoe View Post
    okay, you're making me me feel old . . . wtf is a "jugs machine"???
    Follow me on twitter at @dandrews66




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    a pass throwing machine = jugs
    kind of like a baseball pitching machine




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    Check back in 3 years. What I did notice was in the early rounds was physicality. Upshaw is a top 20 talent and versatile. KO physical and versatile. BP physical also will see plenty of action good for short yardage and RZ, Gino versatile can play G/C-late riser. The S is a great athlete a project and ST depth guy. The Cb- fast good athlete and can return kicks. 6th rounder Streeter is lots of upside, needs work- great athlete again and a real tall burner- I like this pick. 7th rounder DT played with back and leg injuries (headed to IR for develomental project). Front part of draft are physical hitters, back half athletes need grooming. Grades are dumb and pointless.




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    Re: How did we do?

    I think we did pretty good. I'll go with the instincs on one of the top GM's in football before message board GM's who think they know everything, any day of the week.
    "What would you give for the man beside you?"




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    Quote Originally Posted by sandiegosean View Post
    Hard to grade a draft the day of. It was a fail if you take into account what our AFC comp. got. Pitt, Cincy, NE, and even Houston had better drafts, that makes it scary.




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    I like the potential we gained today. I love Streeter, he brings physical gifts and lacks the things he can be coached, I love seeing that in prospects, whether or not he responds is the question, but I'm incredibly pleased with that pick

    Other than taking Gradakowski so early I was very pleased. I give it a B+




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    Re: How did we do?

    It just seems like we drafted a lot of projects, where some other teams in the AFC have more pro ready players. We probably got some solid depth but I don't really see that one special player that will be an impact player for the next decade.

    But I am holding out judgement until we get them on the field. But this was really a "meh" draft. Probably the least excited I have been during the Harbaugh era.




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    Re: How did we do?

    Quote Originally Posted by sandiegosean View Post
    It was a fail if you take into account what our AFC comp. got. Pitt, Cincy, NE, and even Houston had better drafts, that makes it scary.
    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    One Sun writer said all the AFC-N teams improved themselves but the Ravens. Even Bruce said he was trying not to get discouraged with the draft.
    No offense meant (because we all do it) but this is really flawed thinking, and here's why.

    First, Everyone predicts what the Ravens greatest needs are and then ranks them in some fashion. Then, we rank players according to what we think are the best ones. Finally, we judge the success of the draft based on those two factors.

    The problem is that what we think are the greatest needs of the Ravens may not at all be what the Ravens see as their greatest needs, so they are operating on a different set of criteria from the get-go. Then, the players we think are the best are not necessarily who the Ravens think are the best, so our perception becomes even more skewed. So, essentially, we are judging the success or failure of a team's draft based on criteria that may not even be valid.

    Maybe the Ravens got most every player they really wanted, and maybe the players those other teams got aren't going to pan out at the NFL level. We really don't know for sure, so to say one team did great and another team did poorly is silly, really.

    I think Cincinnati knocked it out of the park, but it could be that those guys don't do jack in the pros. I think Seattle had a really weird draft, but those guys may be just the players they needed to fit their schemes and get into the playoffs.

    So, did the other teams have a better draft? By whose standard? It's all a guess.




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    Don't like the running back pick in the 3rd round. I think we had bigger needs.




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    Quote Originally Posted by steelerhater View Post
    Don't like the running back pick in the 3rd round. I think we had bigger needs.
    Exactly my point. You think that, but maybe the Ravens didn't think that way. If you grade the draft based on your criteria, it may be that the Ravens aren't operating under that premise in the first place.




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    Im personally felt Tommy Streeter was a big steal especially considering the need at WR. I feel like out of all of the players the ravens drafted he has the most potential to become something.




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