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Thread: How did we do?
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04-29-2012, 11:40 AM #121
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04-29-2012, 11:43 AM #122
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04-29-2012, 11:46 AM #123Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: How did we do?
FWIW, I think those who ask for a couple years before we deem a draft (or specific picks) as solid, or bust, or failure, or whatever, have it right.
I think back to a few years ago when one of the big discussions was about why Ozzie and the Ravens couldn't draft a #1 WR if they had 10 years of foresight somehow magically instilled. It seems the view has changed (at least from this thread) that there are an awful lot of "can't miss" guys at that position. I understand the need to have some players who can catch the ball and vie for starting roles, but I'm not sure I'm convinced that the folks who the Ravens DID draft won't be contributing more value than one of the WR's who got passed over this time. I really don't want to live through another x number of years waiting for Travis Taylor to find consistency, or Johnson to find some eyeglasses, or Moore to find a set, or....
The other thing is, who can say that a given draftee who the Ravens did not pick would be a productive fit into the team's situation? There have been guys that the Ravens took in "later" rounds -- Adalius comes to mind -- who many didn't know from Adam during the draft but played very well for the team, then were released because of business reasons (i.e., $$$)
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04-29-2012, 11:46 AM #124
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04-29-2012, 11:51 AM #126
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Re: How did we do?
Nice overview by SI: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...159/index.html
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Re: How did we do?
You are making an assumption based off of the media. Most of whom are just following the opinions of 3 or 4 media persons who don't do much real studying. There were 3 other centers taken in the last 4 rounds...and quite a few teams that could have used a center that didn't draft one. Yet we are supposed to go with the media's rankings and opinions that this guy was the 2nd or 3rd best center when 32 teams that have access that no media person has didn't bother using even a 7th round draft pick on? I'm sorry, when you are clean off the field and not drafted, that is a huge red flag. Doesn't mean that he can't, but to act like he is a better option at all is pretty ridiculous IMHO after watching how this draft played out.
As for WR...in this time of the passing game being king, there is no way that if teams were that confident that those WR's would be big contributers...at least this year...they wouldn't have drafted them earlier. Teams like Miami, Cleveland and Tampa arguably didn't have a single legit starting WR, yet none took a WR before the 4th (and he is really only a return man) and no others until the 6th. They had GLARING needs and none thought enough of these guys to draft them earlier. Many others only really have one legit WR and passed...Carolina, Buffalo, Houston, Indianapolis, Minnesota...some of whom took guys that the MEDIA had rated way below that group of guys that so many here wanted. There certainly were needs for WR's all over the league and many, many teams that needed WR's passed multiple times on those guys.
If we drafted Marvin Jones or McNutt with that 4th round pick, most here would have been happy, some calling it a steal. In reality, both of those guys would have been big reaches as they were both drafted a round or 2 later than that pick.
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04-29-2012, 11:53 AM #129Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: How did we do?
I loved the draft. Upshaw is going to be a stud. He'll probably end up starting at SAM lb. Osemele will compete for LG, and he has a real possibility of starting. Pierce is a big rb with 4.4 speed and excellent vision. Will be a nice complement to Rice. Gradkowski will be our future starting center probably next season after Birk retires. Thompson will be special teams and safety depth. I see Jackson as having a chance to be a returner. He's very good in space. I'm really excited about Streeter. He's very raw, but he has the size and speed. I can see him being a big target in the redzone. His nickname is touchdown tommy for crying out loud. Tyson will be depth on the d-line if he makes the team.
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Re: How did we do?
If you think teams and scouts are giving the media the truth, you are sadly mistaken. Hell the media routinely acknowledges that they are lied to all the time in regards to the draft.
And you have no idea what the scouts think of particular players. Unless they are publishing their scouting reports or you are friends with 98% of the leagues scouts, that argument is invalid.
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Re: How did we do?
"What would you give for the man beside you?"
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