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[Tucker: M&T Sec 527]

Like his football fan comments but FDR? No freakin' way

Yeah: Hoover had it all under control:grbac:
And Wilkie would've stopped Japan and Germany in their tracks....

As long as we're OT, tell me who besides Abe Lincoln even comes close. Certainly no one in the 20th or 21st centuries.

[GOTA]

Yeah: Hoover had it all under control:grbac:
And Wilkie would've stopped Japan and Germany in their tracks....

As long as we're OT, tell me who besides Abe Lincoln even comes close. Certainly no one in the 20th or 21st centuries.

Since we're talking the best Abe Lincoln is exactly who should be considered the best ever. I would pick Truman if we were just talking about 20th and 21st centuries.

[NCRAVEN]

Since we're talking the best Abe Lincoln is exactly who should be considered the best ever. I would pick Truman if we were just talking about 20th and 21st centuries.

How can Washington not be considered the best if not close to a tie?

[Tucker: M&T Sec 527]

Since we're talking the best Abe Lincoln is exactly who should be considered the best ever. I would pick Truman if we were just talking about 20th and 21st centuries.

Truman did OK as an accidental president. But his Doctrine started us on 4 decades of spent blood and treasure in containment policy, much of that a true cluster f**k (e.g. Vietnam) as bad or worse than the welfare state begun by FDR (which I've found is why most people who dislike FDR dislike him). We'll leave it at Honest Abe and drop the subject. No worries.

[seraph]

Since we're talking the best Abe Lincoln is exactly who should be considered the best ever. I would pick Truman if we were just talking about 20th and 21st centuries.

Um no Lincoln was a tyrant just like Qin Shi Huang.