Biggest Shocker....

[Americanmade2012]

At the end of round 1 what team will have the biggest reach/surprise?

IMO it will be the browns with Blackmon(based on the Browns needs, Blackmon is def top ten talent IMO) or Tannehill I mean after all it is the browns.

[wickedsolo]

I think the biggest surprise will be Michael Floyd being taken before Justin Blackmon.


A couple of other guys to keep an eye on for 1st round picks...Derek Wolfe out of Cinci and Nick Toon out of Wisconsin.

[leachisabeast]

Why do you rate Blackmon so highly? I mean he's a good receiver, and will be solid in the NFL IMO, but nothing like AJ Green of last year, so no he isn't a top ten talent in my book, he just is rated better due to the lack of talent in this years draft.

Really this is what I call "top ten talent" in this years draft, and not many of these players would be in the top 20 in my book of the last few drafts we've had.

Trent Richardson
Andrew Luck
RG3
Janoris Jenkins
Morris Claiborne
Stephon Gilmore
Melvin Ingram
Matt Kalil
Michael Floyd
Fletcher Cox

With that said, the biggest shocker for this years draft will be Cleveland passing up on Trent Richardson and probably reaching for Ryan Tannehill.

[Americanmade2012]

Why do you rate Blackmon so highly? I mean he's a good receiver, and will be solid in the NFL IMO, but nothing like AJ Green of last year, so no he isn't a top ten talent in my book, he just is rated better due to the lack of talent in this years draft.

Really this is what I call "top ten talent" in this years draft, and not many of these players would be in the top 20 in my book of the last few drafts we've had.

Trent Richardson
Andrew Luck
RG3
Janoris Jenkins
Morris Claiborne
Stephon Gilmore
Melvin Ingram
Matt Kalil
Michael Floyd
Fletcher Cox

With that said, the biggest shocker for this years draft will be Cleveland passing up on Trent Richardson and probably reaching for Ryan Tannehill.

I understand your opinion and feel differently everyone has a different view on "talent" some like speed and others like stats/productivity. I mean you see it every now and then when a lower round draft prospect is more successful then first or second rounders and the biggest one I can think of at the moment is Tom Brady, Talent is hard to evaluate because GT has a triple option offenses and trying to evaluate a WR (hill) in that offense is hard.

[leachisabeast]

I understand your opinion and feel differently but everyone said Brady was not a great talent and he proved us wrong so how do we know if talent is evaluated properly anyway? everyone has a different view on "talent" some like speed and others like stats/productivity

But QB's are way more difficult to project in the NFL than a WR. When you look at Blackmon, he doesn't have the greatest of speed, he isn't really the biggest of guys either. So he isn't an Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, or AJ Green. To me he is similar to Anquan Boldin, and if he goes on to have the career that Boldin has had, or anything close, then he should be very proud. However, for a WR to be drafted in the top 10 these days, he has to have a combination of everything, size, speed, separation, great hands, great route running ability, etc... I am even struggling to say Floyd is a top 10 talent to be honest with you.

Nobody seen the Tom Brady thing coming, and I really don't know if he would have become the QB he is today had he been in another system and didn't get coached as well as he did, while he was developing (along with some other er.. things if you know what I mean). You can't compare that IMO.

But hey maybe I am totally wrong and he becomes a special player in the NFL, only time will tell.

[Americanmade2012]

But QB's are way more difficult to project in the NFL than a WR. When you look at Blackmon, he doesn't have the greatest of speed, he isn't really the biggest of guys either. So he isn't an Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, or AJ Green. To me he is similar to Anquan Boldin, and if he goes on to have the career that Boldin has had, or anything close, then he should be very proud. However, for a WR to be drafted in the top 10 these days, he has to have a combination of everything, size, speed, separation, great hands, great route running ability, etc... I am even struggling to say Floyd is a top 10 talent to be honest with you.

Nobody seen the Tom Brady thing coming, and I really don't know if he would have become the QB he is today had he been in another system and didn't get as coached as well as he did as he was developing (along with some other er.. things if you know what I mean). You can't compare that IMO.

But hey maybe I am totally wrong and he becomes a special player in the NFL, only time will tell.

I agree with that we are all just ASSUMING the talent is there but depending on the team a player goes to and the system there it could make or break their careers. However, the guessing and projecting part is all part of the fun.

[Cj34]

Why do you rate Blackmon so highly? I mean he's a good receiver, and will be solid in the NFL IMO, but nothing like AJ Green of last year, so no he isn't a top ten talent in my book, he just is rated better due to the lack of talent in this years draft.

Really this is what I call "top ten talent" in this years draft, and not many of these players would be in the top 20 in my book of the last few drafts we've had.

Well, I'll take a stab at it. I can't guarantee Blackmon will be a flat out stud #1 receiver, no one can. If the guys that do this for a living have such a low success rate what chance does an average joe have? My argument would be for anyone to name me a receiver in this draft that has his body of work against that competition. Maybe he turns out to be incredible maybe he doesn't but the fact that he produced big time over and over against that quality throughout his entire college career means more to me then someone 6'4" and running a 4.3 40 yd dash with potential at the combine.


BTW my biggest shocker is Upshaw falling to the Ravens.