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    Yet nobody is offering him that contract.

    Will it hurt the Steelers to move money to re-sign him? Yes. But it isn't impossible and they'd certainly do it if the suitor was someone in the division.
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    Re: What do we think of this little story?

    It's the money he's demanding that's stopping every team from moving forward. It's not the pick.

    I believe he'll be in Pitt this year unless he holds out. Next year he's probably gone and they'll get a 3rd round conditional amd move on
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    Re: What do we think of this little story?

    I could see the rams trying to give up one of their high 2's and maybe a later pick




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    I remember steeler fans saying Webb was crazy when he stated wallace wasn't the best Wr on the steelers. I always thought brown was the all around better receiver when healthy. I would hate to see the steelers with 2 first round picks so I hope he stays this year. The question is, can brown put up big numbers without Wallace or being the #1 receiver
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    Re: What do we think of this little story?

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    That literally can't happen. If Cincy offers him a contract with a huge first-year cap hit, the Steelers can't match it unless they cut several more veterans. They're restructured every contract they possibly can.

    Pittsburgh really doesn't have any options at this point. Anybody who offers Wallace a contract with a first-year cap hit above 5m is going to get him as long as he signs on the line. Nothing the Steelers can do about it.

    I don't really see the Steelers having any desire to TRADE Wallace, though. That I don't think will happen, since there's no incentive for the Steelers and very little incentive for another team to do it. Grabbing him as an RFA only makes sense for a team that feels like Wallace is worth a first rounder and a big contract. I think Cincy fits because 1) they have a huge need at WR, 2) they wanted to get more explosive last year, 3) they have an extra 1st rounder, and 4) they've never really valued draft picks all that much.

    Again, there must be a good reason it isn't happening because on paper it makes sense.
    Too bad Mike Brown doesn't care about winning. But if the Ravens were in Cincinnati's shoes, does Ozzie pull the trigger?




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    Re: What do we think of this little story?

    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    Too bad Mike Brown doesn't care about winning. But if the Ravens were in Cincinnati's shoes, does Ozzie pull the trigger?
    I wouldn't waste a first round pick and a bunch of money for him, even if I have the cap room Cinci does. Look at his attitude, I don't care how good he is, he is not worth that kind of money and a draft pick, Ozzie wants winners. Wallace isn't in the same class as Andre Johnson or Calvin Johnson.

    I'd rather draft my own guy, like Kendall Wight and develop him along side AJ Green, both much more hard working guys with much better attitudes than Wallace.




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    Re: What do we think of this little story?

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I wouldn't waste a first round pick and a bunch of money for him, even if I have the cap room Cinci does. Look at his attitude, I don't care how good he is, he is not worth that kind of money and a draft pick, Ozzie wants winners. Wallace isn't in the same class as Andre Johnson or Calvin Johnson.

    I'd rather draft my own guy, like Kendall Wight and develop him along side AJ Green, both much more hard working guys with much better attitudes than Wallace.
    Even if you had a chance to weaken a division rival at the same time?




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    Re: What do we think of this little story?

    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    Even if you had a chance to weaken a division rival at the same time?
    I don't know about that because yes the Steelers will be without a top tier WR in the league, but at the same time they are losing a pre madonna and gaining a first rounder which could end up being a stud. Roethlisberger is good enough to make things happen without Wallace. So no I wouldn't do it personally.




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    Re: What do we think of this little story?

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Pat Kirwin said that he did sign a RFA back when he was a GM. He waited until an hour before the deadline to do it just to try and put pressure on the other team.
    I'm not certain what the rules were at the time Kirwin says he waited until the last second, but a rule of the restricted market is that there is a seven-day period for "right of first refusal" eliminating the possibility to "pressure" another team with a truncated time frame to make a decision.




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    Re: What do we think of this little story?

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I wouldn't waste a first round pick and a bunch of money for him, even if I have the cap room Cinci does. Look at his attitude, I don't care how good he is, he is not worth that kind of money and a draft pick, Ozzie wants winners. Wallace isn't in the same class as Andre Johnson or Calvin Johnson.

    I'd rather draft my own guy, like Kendall Wight and develop him along side AJ Green, both much more hard working guys with much better attitudes than Wallace.
    But Kendall Wright has never stepped foot on an NFL field. Mike Wallace is ALREADY one of the very best deep threats in the league. He's not at the Calvin Johnson/Larry Fitzgerald/Andre Johnson level, but I would argue he is right below that. He's realistically a top 10 WR in the league, and Wright is not. Wright is 3 years younger than Wallace, but it's not like Wallace is old. He's only 25 and he stands to get better if he can hone his route running a bit.

    If you could choose between Kendall Wright and Mike Wallace for the same CONTRACT, I think it's a no-brainer that you choose Wallace. As others have said, the problem looks to be that teams simply don't want to pay Wallace's price at all, draft picks notwithstanding.




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    Re: What do we think of this little story?

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    But Kendall Wright has never stepped foot on an NFL field. Mike Wallace is ALREADY one of the very best deep threats in the league. He's not at the Calvin Johnson/Larry Fitzgerald/Andre Johnson level, but I would argue he is right below that. He's realistically a top 10 WR in the league, and Wright is not. Wright is 3 years younger than Wallace, but it's not like Wallace is old. He's only 25 and he stands to get better if he can hone his route running a bit.

    If you could choose between Kendall Wright and Mike Wallace for the same CONTRACT, I think it's a no-brainer that you choose Wallace. As others have said, the problem looks to be that teams simply don't want to pay Wallace's price at all, draft picks notwithstanding.
    My argument isn't on Kendall Wright vs Wallace, of course I know who the better player is right now. But 10 million a year for Mike Wallace? No thanks. The argument isn't between who you would chose between Wright and Wallace at the same contract, my argument is that you should never spend that much money on a pre modonna WR. Kendall Wright was just an example btw, because by the time the Bengals are picking he's probably the only receiver worth taking at #17 or #21.




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    Re: What do we think of this little story?

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    My argument isn't on Kendall Wright vs Wallace, of course I know who the better player is right now. But 10 million a year for Mike Wallace? No thanks. The argument isn't between who you would chose between Wright and Wallace at the same contract, my argument is that you should never spend that much money on a pre modonna WR. Kendall Wright was just an example btw, because by the time the Bengals are picking he's probably the only receiver worth taking at #17 or #21.
    Assuming you mean Prima donna, it is a pointless knock as Wallace has never been a problem or distraction. He is worth what the market says he is worth and worth much more than an untested draft pick.




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    Re: What do we think of this little story?

    Quote Originally Posted by blacknpurplepain View Post
    I remember steeler fans saying Webb was crazy when he stated wallace wasn't the best Wr on the steelers. I always thought brown was the all around better receiver when healthy. I would hate to see the steelers with 2 first round picks so I hope he stays this year. The question is, can brown put up big numbers without Wallace or being the #1 receiver
    We'll see what Brown can do when the double team starts coming his way more frequently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    We'll see what Brown can do when the double team starts coming his way more frequently.
    This is what I think will happen. Players who succeed get more attention from the opposing defense. Plus, ward is gone, he helped wallace and brown with crossing routes that often took a player covering them get blocked out slightly, enough for brown or wallace to get open. Ward was good at interfering with the defensive players ablity to stay with the receiver on a crossing play. Brown or wallace have played now for several years and there are tapes available to study them.




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    Quote Originally Posted by lovefootball View Post
    This is what I think will happen. Players who succeed get more attention from the opposing defense. Plus, ward is gone, he helped wallace and brown with crossing routes that often took a player covering them get blocked out slightly, enough for brown or wallace to get open. Ward was good at interfering with the defensive players ablity to stay with the receiver on a crossing play. Brown or wallace have played now for several years and there are tapes available to study them.
    Ward barely played last year. Sanders and Cotchery were the 3 and 4 guys. Ward finished the season as the 5th receiver. Losing Wallace could impact Brown, but losing Ward will have absolutely no effect.




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