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    Re: Webb signs extension



    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    Finnegan was known as one of the better CBs in the league, as was Carr. Webb has one year where he was good, one where he was average and a few good games at the end of his rookie year before getting injured. Carr and Finnegan have been consistently good for 4+ years so even if Webb is better, he simply doesnt have the history to suggest he is. I agree that he is better (probably not considerably though) and in all likelihood will be this year as well, but based on his previous credentials vs Carr and Finnegan i cant say he necessarily deserved more right now. after this season, if he repeats his success, absolutely because then he has more than one good season to support that he is infact that good and it isnt an anomaly.
    The way I feel is that CBs are usually pretty stable in their performance. I can't really recall many recent situations where a CB had a monster year then fell apart the next. Even if Webb doesn't continue the elite level of play, I'm certain he'll be an above average CB for the duration of the contract and if that is the case, the contract will still be a great deal, IMO.




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    Re: Webb signs extension

    I think this was a good signing, because if Webb played as well as he did last year and wasn't locked up we would be paying him allot more next year or letting him walk. When you compare it to the 3 big free agent CB signings this off season in Finnegan (5/50) Carr (5/50) and Wright (5/37.5) I think it looks allot more reasonable especially because Webb was easily better than all 3 last year. Basically if Webb plays as well or better than last year its a great signing and if he falls to the level of those 3 other guys it was still a good market price signing.




  3. #93

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    I agree. Webb will always be outsized and mostly outmuscled, and he knows this. Can't see him slacking off either.

    IIRC, he's a young pupil of the Ray Lewis Film Study school...which is probably why (more than anything else) he exploded this year. He's probably been studying the NFC east and other opponents since they were announced.
    Webb has tremendous physical tools. He can run with anybody downfield, has excellent recovery speed, and great ball skills. He's physical for his size and build as well. The only thing that ever held him back was his technique, which improved a lot in 2011. He still has a ways to go in terms of mastering the cornerback position, but that's not unreasonable to expect as he only really has 3 years of CB, 1 of which he was injured most of the year and still recovering in the next year.

    If he stays healthy and continues to improve his technique, I think he could be an improved version of Asante Samuel with immeasurably better tackling ability.

    For as dominant as Webb could be at CB, I have been thinking more and more lately what he could look like stepping into #20's shoes at FS. His instincts and ball skills remind me of Ed Reed, and I think he is an even better athlete than Ed was in his prime. There's greater positional value at CB, but I just think he could give us another 10 years of dominance at FS.




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    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    For as dominant as Webb could be at CB, I have been thinking more and more lately what he could look like stepping into #20's shoes at FS. His instincts and ball skills remind me of Ed Reed, and I think he is an even better athlete than Ed was in his prime. There's greater positional value at CB, but I just think he could give us another 10 years of dominance at FS.
    There's no reason to do this. CB is so valuable right now in the NFL, and there is always risk in changing a players role. We know Webb is a great corner. That's clearly where his value is highest. Maybe when he gets older and starts to slow down this will be reasonable, but there's no way it's happening anytime soon.




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    Re: Webb signs extension

    Quote Originally Posted by B-more Ravor View Post
    Jeff Zrebiec ‏ @jeffzrebiecsun
    The #Ravens have agreed in principle to a six-year deal with cornerback Lardarius Webb, according to a source.


    http://www.macsfootballblog.com/2012...-terms-on.html
    Alrighty Then !!!!! Now get Joe and Rice done.




  6. #96

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    Sweet! I don't have to worry about changing my subtitle!
    Festivus

    His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.




  7. #97

    Re: Webb signs extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Cactus View Post
    There's no reason to do this. CB is so valuable right now in the NFL, and there is always risk in changing a players role. We know Webb is a great corner. That's clearly where his value is highest. Maybe when he gets older and starts to slow down this will be reasonable, but there's no way it's happening anytime soon.
    I agree with you, but the thing I don't think can be answered at this point is what will this defense really look like in the days after Ed Reed? Sure, he's missed time over the past few years, but he's played more often than not and I think he completely changes how our secondary (and our defense) works.

    I think his presence back there covering so much ground pulls the overall performance of our secondary up by a large measure. If you take him away and replace him with a league-average safety, our whole system becomes less effective. We won't be able to play as much single high safety, we will be much more susceptible to the deep pass, etc... I think there will be cascading effects.

    Maybe I'm overthinking it. Maybe the team will be able to acquire a suitable replacement. And yes, a good CB generally has a higher positional value than a good safety. I just wonder how THIS team particularly answers that question and I'm proposing one answer I think is interesting.




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    Re: Webb signs extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    No, I think Ozzie just wanted to lock him up while simultaneously saving a couple hundred grand. They just both had a common number in mind and made the signing easier than say Rice who seems to be asking for a lot more than the Ravens want to offer.

    Nobody was signing Webb and Ozzie even pointed out the extremely low probability of an outside offer when UFA first started.
    Ozzie is a great poker player. Of course he is going to publicly down play the chances of him signing with another team. Bisciotti didn't just sign a $10 million bonus check so they could save $125,000 off the cap. Ozzie spoke about getting Webb signed early which is not something he speaks about often. In fact other than Flacco I can't remember him doing that since Ed Reed.

    Under this new CBA there is a chance that a top RFA signs an offer sheet, especially in a year with a mediocre 1st round of the draft. I'm just glad that we don't have to worry about it for a while.
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  9. #99

    Re: Webb signs extension

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Ozzie is a great poker player. Of course he is going to publicly down play the chances of him signing with another team. Bisciotti didn't just sign a $10 million bonus check so they could save $125,000 off the cap. Ozzie spoke about getting Webb signed early which is not something he speaks about often. In fact other than Flacco I can't remember him doing that since Ed Reed.

    Under this new CBA there is a chance that a top RFA signs an offer sheet, especially in a year with a mediocre 1st round of the draft. I'm just glad that we don't have to worry about it for a while.
    I don't agree.

    In the day and age of the cap and UFA, draft picks are more valuable than ever. It just doesn't happen.

    Per Ozzie, I think he was being honest...and if you go by history, this is how it works.

    He wanted to keep his guys and sign him early...as much grief as he has got for not doing it, he has done it for cornerstone players...and it's obvious with the contract he gave Webby that he considers him a cornerstone guy. We also have a QB and probably a top RB coming up for UFA next year and he won't have the franchise tag to use on all of them...so take care of at least 2 if you can beforehand so they all don't get out to the open market.

    He has also said he is negotiating with Cary Williams...does anybody think he is scared or concerned about another team coming after him? No...he see's potential for the team to lock down 3 very, very good corners for another 4 years or so and he is trying to make it happen.




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    Re: Webb signs extension

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    ... Under this new CBA there is a chance that a top RFA signs an offer sheet, especially in a year with a mediocre 1st round of the draft. I'm just glad that we don't have to worry about it for a while.
    Great point. Imagine the Patriots signing Webb and us getting a low 1st round pick in this draft...UGH! ... Bc




  11. #101

    Re: Webb signs extension

    Yes!!!!

    This was a no brainer, and Ozzie FINALLY locks up a young superstar early and got great value in terms of years and average salary.

    So happy right now.




  12. #102

    Re: Webb signs extension

    Freaking amazing news. Now for Webby to ascend to being the best DB in the league.




  13. #103

    Re: Webb signs extension

    I love this, I assume this would be cheaper than had we waited till next year when he was a UFA and his value may have gone up and he might have wanted to test the market. I believe Joe is next and then Rice.




  14. #104

    Re: Webb signs extension

    great signing. I would have liked for the deal to be more in the $45M range but I'm ok with paying him $50M as long as that leaves enough money to lock up Flacco and Rice




  15. #105

    Re: Webb signs extension

    Anyone know where I can find his interview with Glenn On 105.7? I believe he was on air a couple hours ago.




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