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  1. Re: Ravens should draft Russel Wilson with 1st round pick



    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    You could have just used the term elusiveness or evasiveness, but whatever.
    thanks for proven my point. words are made up. I guess English is the name of a man who makes up words for us to say. And gets people like you to correct whoever does not talk like him.




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    Re: Ravens should draft Russel Wilson with 1st round pick

    Furthermore, the Ravens are not interested in any QB's at all.

    They're negotiating with Flacco right now for an extension. He's going to be the starting QB in Baltimore for at least 5-7 more years. Probably more. They obviously felt good enough with their QB situation last year to only carry two and one of them was a late round rookie, Tyrod Taylor, who brings a majority of the skill set that Russell Wilson brings to the table, but Taylor is also 6'1" and runs a lot better than Wilson does. He's more fluid.
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  3. Re: Ravens should draft Russel Wilson with 1st round pick

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I seem to recall a friendly suggestion to the OP many months ago that stepping up his game in terms of facts and better grammar, spelling, etc would serve him well around here.

    He mocked me saying it's all good.

    Go figure ....
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    Re: Ravens should draft Russel Wilson with 1st round pick

    Quote Originally Posted by mommathurgoesthatman View Post
    Im sorry that i think outside the box unlike most people. I know football and i know Wilson is about to be the next big star when he is given the chance.
    I like Wilson, I routed for him. If any one I'd compare him to Drew Brees. However the main difference, to me, Brees has a MUCH quicker delivery.

    The last thing you want as a short QB who is already at a disadvantage seeing open guys is to take a long time to wind up and deliver the ball.

    He'll be a decent back up and may have the potential to start, but I gotta disagree STRONGLY he's anything under a 4th - 5th rounder.




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    Re: Ravens should draft Russel Wilson with 1st round pick

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Wilson reminds me of Tony Pike the Cincinnati QB who was drafted by the Panthers. Both were effective game managers who really aren't overly impressive to watch. Matt Flynn was also the same way but he grew his game far beyond that in the NFL. Will Wilson do the same or will he be out of the league in a year like Pike?
    Pike was also 6'6", haha.

    Honestly, Wilson has a decent arm on him and he's got big hands & a high release, which bode well for him. I just don't think he's going to have the opportunity because no coach or GM is going to look at him as anything more than a back up. If he was a legit 6' (Brees is 6' and change) then I could see a coach being able to look past the height disadvantage, but he's under 5'11". That alone is going to make it extremely difficult for him to overcome and I doubt he does.

    Other than Doug Flutie, what sub-6' quarterback has ever had any amount of legitimate success in the past 20 years? There are plenty of guys in college that can throw the ball well and are under 6' or right at 6' and it's very difficult for them to break that barrier. Case Keenum is another QB right now coming out of Houston and he is right at 6' and is just a pure passer, but Houston's offense was designed for a QB to throw the ball 50+ times a game and didn't need a guy to be a prototypical NFL passer.
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    Re: Ravens should draft Russel Wilson with 1st round pick

    Quote Originally Posted by mommathurgoesthatman View Post
    thanks for proven my point. words are made up. I guess English is the name of a man who makes up words for us to say. And gets people like you to correct whoever does not talk like him.
    Except evasiveness and elusiveness are actual words...
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    Re: Ravens should draft Russel Wilson with 1st round pick

    Well, this thread certainly is going nowhere ....

    Filed.
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    Re: Ravens should draft Russel Wilson with 1st round pick

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Other than Doug Flutie, what sub-6' quarterback has ever had any amount of legitimate success in the past 20 years? There are plenty of guys in college that can throw the ball well and are under 6' or right at 6' and it's very difficult for them to break that barrier. Case Keenum is another QB right now coming out of Houston and he is right at 6' and is just a pure passer, but Houston's offense was designed for a QB to throw the ball 50+ times a game and didn't need a guy to be a prototypical NFL passer.
    Flutie, imo, stands as an example that the prejudices of GM's and NFL coaches don't always work out. He was too short to be a QB in their estimation, so he bounced around the league. That he won football games and was very effective everywhere he went seems to have played second fiddle to his height.

    I care more about whether or not a player can play the game than his physical attributes. If Wilson is available in a late round, I could see Ozzie grabbing him to compete with Taylor for the back-up spot. If he ends up pushing Flacco for the starter's role, that's a bonus.

    I agree with the sentiment that using a first round pick on a guy who is probably going to be available in the later rounds is foolish. That's true even if you think you're looking at the next Jerry Rice, Walter Payton, or Dan Marino (guys that retired at the top, statistically, at their position).




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    Re: Ravens should draft Russel Wilson with 1st round pick

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Except evasiveness and elusiveness are actual words...
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    Re: Ravens should draft Russel Wilson with 1st round pick

    Quote Originally Posted by bacchys View Post
    Flutie, imo, stands as an example that the prejudices of GM's and NFL coaches don't always work out. He was too short to be a QB in their estimation, so he bounced around the league. That he won football games and was very effective everywhere he went seems to have played second fiddle to his height.

    I care more about whether or not a player can play the game than his physical attributes. If Wilson is available in a late round, I could see Ozzie grabbing him to compete with Taylor for the back-up spot. If he ends up pushing Flacco for the starter's role, that's a bonus.

    I agree with the sentiment that using a first round pick on a guy who is probably going to be available in the later rounds is foolish. That's true even if you think you're looking at the next Jerry Rice, Walter Payton, or Dan Marino (guys that retired at the top, statistically, at their position).
    Flutie also played 8 seasons in the CFL before making any real noise in the NFL.

    It definitely stands as an example, but Flutie is more of an anomaly than anything. It is RARE that a guy his size has had that level of success in the NFL.
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    Re: Ravens should draft Russel Wilson with 1st round pick

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Pike was also 6'6", haha.

    Honestly, Wilson has a decent arm on him and he's got big hands & a high release, which bode well for him. I just don't think he's going to have the opportunity because no coach or GM is going to look at him as anything more than a back up. If he was a legit 6' (Brees is 6' and change) then I could see a coach being able to look past the height disadvantage, but he's under 5'11". That alone is going to make it extremely difficult for him to overcome and I doubt he does.

    Other than Doug Flutie, what sub-6' quarterback has ever had any amount of legitimate success in the past 20 years? There are plenty of guys in college that can throw the ball well and are under 6' or right at 6' and it's very difficult for them to break that barrier. Case Keenum is another QB right now coming out of Houston and he is right at 6' and is just a pure passer, but Houston's offense was designed for a QB to throw the ball 50+ times a game and didn't need a guy to be a prototypical NFL passer.
    Jeff Blake is the only one I can think of. Like Brees, Blake had a huge arm and a very quick delivery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Wilson reminds me of Tony Pike the Cincinnati QB who was drafted by the Panthers. Both were effective game managers who really aren't overly impressive to watch. Matt Flynn was also the same way but he grew his game far beyond that in the NFL. Will Wilson do the same or will he be out of the league in a year like Pike?
    I don't know college football, but I know that, regardless of whether you like Flacco or not, you have to realize we would be idiots to replace him with a boom-or-bust type project. If Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin magically fell to our spot, I would have no issue drafting them and letting them have an honest competition with Flacco. But precisely the argument I have against anyone who rails that we need to run Flacco out of town is that, while the guy may not be top 5, he's also above average in the league. That means there's a better than even chance that if you decide to do the bold thing and replace him, the odds are that the guy you get will end up being a downgrade.

    Lots of guys who have looked like surefire money players to "guys who know football" have ended up washed up out of the league with the "BUST" status next to their name. Did you think Tom Brady was going to be the next superstar when he came out in 2000? Because 32 NFL teams would've wondered what you were thinking. And yes, I said 32, because the Patriots also didn't think he was going to be as big as he turned out to be.
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    Re: Ravens should draft Russel Wilson with 1st round pick

    Trash Heap? Really? Why was this moved? I don't agree with drafting Wilson but how is it that bad to start a thread about it?
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    Re: Ravens should draft Russel Wilson with 1st round pick

    If folks want it moved back, I will.

    At the time it was moved, there were more insults than actual debate.
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    Re: Ravens should draft Russel Wilson with 1st round pick

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    I don't know college football, but I know that, regardless of whether you like Flacco or not, you have to realize we would be idiots to replace him with a boom-or-bust type project. If Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin magically fell to our spot, I would have no issue drafting them and letting them have an honest competition with Flacco. But precisely the argument I have against anyone who rails that we need to run Flacco out of town is that, while the guy may not be top 5, he's also above average in the league. That means there's a better than even chance that if you decide to do the bold thing and replace him, the odds are that the guy you get will end up being a downgrade.

    Lots of guys who have looked like surefire money players to "guys who know football" have ended up washed up out of the league with the "BUST" status next to their name. Did you think Tom Brady was going to be the next superstar when he came out in 2000? Because 32 NFL teams would've wondered what you were thinking. And yes, I said 32, because the Patriots also didn't think he was going to be as big as he turned out to be.
    Just because they draft a QB doesn't mean they're looking to replace Flacco. That certainly wasn't the case last year with TT. Ozzie learned under Belechick and old Bill takes QBs in many drafts and even much higher than Ozzie. I haven't seen 1 beat out Tom Brady but that hasn't stopped the Pats from drafting them.
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