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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Honetly, this is my ideal situation. It really is.

    Bring him back on a 5 year deal and then gun for someone like Kevin Zeitler or Cordy Glenn in the draft. Boom. Interior OL set for half a decade and still allows you to keep Rice.
    IF we were to do this, I would be completely fine. However, if we start Gurode at C and draft a LG in the 2nd or 3rd round; letting Grubbs go would be a mistake.




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    The Rams only save $600K by cutting him so if they do so, that is telling.

    Is he really an improvement over Gurode at center? I'm not sure I buy that one
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    Brown was a beat while here. Id like to think coming back to winning team with a great structure would bring back the old brown. Only thing that worries me is this isnt 4 years ago. Our line scheme is different. Hopefully he could pick it up quick. What would be the market for him as were all just assuming hed jump at coming back?
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    everything ive heard suggest he has lost alot. Theres been talk the Rams cutting him for two years now and that he just isnt the player they thought they signed. There NO CHANCE id give him a 5 year deal and quite frankly he would come cheap this summer. though id have no problem bringing hm in to compete for the starting job and see what happens




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    F em. He chose to go for a lot of money and losing vs good money and winning. As it was stated he may not even be an upgrade from Gurode .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    The Rams only save $600K by cutting him so if they do so, that is telling.
    First, this reportedly isn't true...what I've seen indicates that Brown saves $2.8MM if cut.

    Second, I love how people are really quick to spend other peoples' money. Brown will make $5MM next year. If he's not the starter, it's stupid for a team to pay an interior lineman $5MM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayc00 View Post
    F em. He chose to go for a lot of money and losing vs good money and winning. As it was stated he may not even be an upgrade from Gurode .
    Ha, there is definitely that mentality about him. He left and didn't have to.

    I just don't think Gurode is all that great anymore. He'll be 33 in a month, he's not very athletic and it really showed when he lined up at guard in place of Grubbs.

    I'd be cool with Gurode coming back as a back up who will be given the opportunity to compete with someone else for the starting gig, but I still don't really understand how so many folks think he's the best option. What did he do this past season to make anyone think he could start here? It also would be delaying the inevitable with finding a long term solution at center. Why pay for a 33 year old guy who may only give 1 or 2 decent years when they could sign someone younger (doesn't have to be Jason Brown necessarily) and then address the LG spot with the draft? Cordy Glenn, Kelechi Osemele, Kevin Zeitler, Brandon Washington....more than likely any of those guys will be available to Baltimore and at least 2 of them could start right away at LG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    The Rams only save $600K by cutting him so if they do so, that is telling.

    Is he really an improvement over Gurode at center? I'm not sure I buy that one
    cap wise maybe, but no way is he only scheduled to make 600k in base pay.







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    Quote Originally Posted by psuasskicker View Post
    First, this reportedly isn't true...what I've seen indicates that Brown saves $2.8MM if cut.

    Second, I love how people are really quick to spend other peoples' money. Brown will make $5MM next year. If he's not the starter, it's stupid for a team to pay an interior lineman $5MM.

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    He's not Fisher's guy and there is reason to think that Jeff Fisher is going to really scrap a lot of that team within the next 2 seasons.
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    I would welcome Brown back as long as he can still play at a high level. Hopefully it was just being in STL. I like the idea of bolstering the OL.




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    If Brown could have done it over again, I would be surprised if he wouldn't.

    Ozzie would have paid about six million per year to be the C here. However, since he played some G when he first entered the league, he knew that he could get that value. St. Louis offered him that guard money (8) to play C. He could have had six and stayed. He called Ozzie to get Ozzie to match the 8 and Ozzie said no. Now, we don't know the context of that 'no'. It might have been a 'We wish you well and don't blame you' type of 'No'. Then again, it could have been a 'This fool must have lost his mind' type of 'no'.

    Personally, my strategy would be to draft the C. Keep Grubbs and pay him long-term. That takes care of your guards for the next four years or so. Draft the C and groom him behind Gurode, who will be the less expensive option. What Gurode showed here was that if he was asked to play G, he would not do very well. Gurode is really a C and hadn't played G in a very long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Ha, there is definitely that mentality about him. He left and didn't have to.

    I just don't think Gurode is all that great anymore. He'll be 33 in a month, he's not very athletic and it really showed when he lined up at guard in place of Grubbs.

    I'd be cool with Gurode coming back as a back up who will be given the opportunity to compete with someone else for the starting gig, but I still don't really understand how so many folks think he's the best option. What did he do this past season to make anyone think he could start here? It also would be delaying the inevitable with finding a long term solution at center. Why pay for a 33 year old guy who may only give 1 or 2 decent years when they could sign someone younger (doesn't have to be Jason Brown necessarily) and then address the LG spot with the draft? Cordy Glenn, Kelechi Osemele, Kevin Zeitler, Brandon Washington....more than likely any of those guys will be available to Baltimore and at least 2 of them could start right away at LG.
    Yeah, I agree that Gurode isn't the answer at C and and they should definitely address the position during the draft or FA. But yeah I dont even want him looking over at the guard position stay far away from that spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HHIRaven View Post
    Rumors are that the Rams are going to cut Jason Brown and go with Tony Wragge at center. Do you think the Ravens would bring him back at a reasonable price?
    Is there something recent about these rumors or is this just be speculation from a couple of months ago?

    Regardless, while I like Jason Brown a lot, I do have some concerns about what appears to be a drop in level of play:

    http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2011/11...-brown-benched

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...s-and-centers/

    That said, if the FO feels that whatever happened can be corrected, I'd he happy to have him back on a short term, prove it contract - in tandem with drafting the future C early in the draft (who could play G for a year if needed).
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    Quote Originally Posted by psuasskicker View Post
    First, this reportedly isn't true...what I've seen indicates that Brown saves $2.8MM if cut.

    Second, I love how people are really quick to spend other peoples' money. Brown will make $5MM next year. If he's not the starter, it's stupid for a team to pay an interior lineman $5MM.

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    Yeah....in a related comment didn't the Ravens pay Gurode around $5.5M last year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HHIRaven View Post
    Rumors are that the Rams are going to cut Jason Brown and go with Tony Wragge at center. Do you think the Ravens would bring him back at a reasonable price?
    In a word YES. He will only be 29 in May, and if the Rams satisfied his $ needs, then the Ravens can sign him to an acceptable contract. He got his $ so maybe now he wants a shot at a championship. He wasn't going to get it in St. Louis.
    For those who think there might be something wrong with Brown, teams release players for multiple reasons all the time. Case in point is Bernard Pollard. Houston let him go after two 100+ tackle seasons, he came to Baltimore and played rather well.
    Personally, I'd welcome both Brown and LeRon McClain back... Bc
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