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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach



    I'm not sure which part is better. Getting him to come here or getting him to choose us over the Steelers.

    Would be a great hire. Definitiley has shades of Dean Pees being hired as LB coach two years ago, except instead of doing it as insurance in case our DC left, this would be a guy who could easily move to OC if Cam gets let go.
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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    I'm not sure which part is better. Getting him to come here or getting him to choose us over the Steelers.

    Would be a great hire. Definitiley has shades of Dean Pees being hired as LB coach two years ago, except instead of doing it as insurance in case our DC left, this would be a guy who could easily move to OC if Cam gets let go.
    While a great point, there are a couple of issues:

    - Caldwell has never been an OC. He's either been a positional coach (QB or WR) or he's been a HC (with questionable results)

    - Caldwell's of the 'if the pass fails, pass some more' school of thought (with Colts and Wake Forest). The Ravens like to have a balanced attack with a potent running game. I'm not sure that's a good fit.




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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    He's another guy with head coaching experience and that's great. Pees
    was a head coach in college. Cald comes straight from NFL head coaching
    ranks. That's a lot of experience for HARBs to draw from.

    This is like getting Zorn back, another former head coach when he came
    here.

    Of course, the biggest question is how CAM uses him. He's still the boss
    on offense and didn't like Zorn lurking over his shoulder and getting close to Joe. Will he resent Caldwell? Just asking.




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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrian View Post
    While a great point, there are a couple of issues:

    - Caldwell has never been an OC. He's either been a positional coach (QB or WR) or he's been a HC (with questionable results)

    - Caldwell's of the 'if the pass fails, pass some more' school of thought (with Colts and Wake Forest). The Ravens like to have a balanced attack with a potent running game. I'm not sure that's a good fit.



    Caldwell seems to be a lot like Joe. Kind of quiet, less emotional. I don't think you want a fire breathing, ranting lunatic. You want calm and composed as a QB coach, which I believe Caldwell is. I am not expecting Joe to become the second coming of Peyton, but I do believe a coach like Caldwell can maximize Joe's potential, and put pressure on Cam to bring the offense into the twenty first century.

    I think this is a great hire. (I also think he will figure out what to do with Ray Rice).




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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    Quote Originally Posted by ed from Bel Air View Post
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    Caldwell seems to be a lot like Joe. Kind of quiet, less emotional. I don't think you want a fire breathing, ranting lunatic. You want calm and composed as a QB coach, which I believe Caldwell is. I am not expecting Joe to become the second coming of Peyton, but I do believe a coach like Caldwell can maximize Joe's potential, and put pressure on Cam to bring the offense into the twenty first century.

    I think this is a great hire. (I also think he will figure out what to do with Ray Rice).
    As a QB coach, it's a nice addition as I said above. I just have questions if he ever becomes OC as it was speculated later down the line should things go awry.




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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrian View Post
    As a QB coach, it's a nice addition as I said above. I just have questions if he ever becomes OC as it was speculated later down the line should things go awry.


    I guess we will find out whether it is the system, or if Peyton is just that good.




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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    I'm going to play a little devil's advocate here...

    As you pointed out, he's never been an OC. So do we really know that he'd be a pass, pass, pass kind've guy? In Indy, he's never had a great rushing game to work with. Here, he could adapt his style a bit more, knowing that we have the pieces to run a more effective running game. There's a difference between running the offense as a HC and running it as an OC, i think.
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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    I'm going to play a little devil's advocate here...

    As you pointed out, he's never been an OC. So do we really know that he'd be a pass, pass, pass kind've guy? In Indy, he's never had a great rushing game to work with. Here, he could adapt his style a bit more, knowing that we have the pieces to run a more effective running game. There's a difference between running the offense as a HC and running it as an OC, i think.
    Just keep in mind we really don't know that he is coming here to be the eventual OC. All we need him to be is a guy to keep Cam in check and help Joe progress.




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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    Holy shit! This is fantastic news!

    Last I read on Caldwell was he was heading to Pittsburgh to be the OC there. Saying a lot that he's choosing to come here to be the QB's coach...I guess Pittsburgh didn't offer him a contract or something, but let me think that he chose here instead.
    Wow. This makes me really excited.
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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    So the Ravens lose their successful defensive coordinator to the Colts and in return, the Ravens get Colts' failed head coach. Brilliant. The only possible conclusion is that the Ravens have decided to give up after almost getting into the Super Bowl. If they end up at the bottom, as they likely will, they will have no one to blame but themselves. This is profoundly stupid.




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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    From Florio's article at PFT



    Caldwell’s arrival could prompt some Ravens fans to clamor for a possible upgrade at the quarterback position, from Joe Flacco to Peyton Manning.
    I'm sure those threads will be in full force now.. sigh

    Honestly, imo.. Manning isn't an upgrade at this point. He's one sack from never walking again.. He'd never survived a season in the AFC North..

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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    Quote Originally Posted by NickM View Post
    So the Ravens lose their successful defensive coordinator to the Colts and in return, the Ravens get Colts' failed head coach. Brilliant. The only possible conclusion is that the Ravens have decided to give up after almost getting into the Super Bowl. If they end up at the bottom, as they likely will, they will have no one to blame but themselves. This is profoundly stupid.
    You do realize that Jim Caldwell has been the QB's coach for one of the best QB's of all time for the past decade...right?
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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Holy shit! This is fantastic news!

    Last I read on Caldwell was he was heading to Pittsburgh to be the OC there. Saying a lot that he's choosing to come here to be the QB's coach...I guess Pittsburgh didn't want him or something.

    Wow. This makes me really excited.
    I like the move.. taking away his HC stuff, you can't argue his success as a QB Coach w/ Collins in Penn State, Johnson in TB and obviously Manning. It sure as hell can't be any worse than last year without a QB Coach..

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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    It's a smart move. Caldwell would also make it possible to dump Cam mid season if they felt the need to.

    edit: I see Scallywag beat me to it. Glad I'm not the only one seeing this option
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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    You do realize that Jim Caldwell has been the QB's coach for one of the best QB's of all time for the past decade...right?
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    Quality response to an absolutely horrible post. Kudos for Red Foreman as well.

    This is an absolutely great hire for more than one reason. His record of coaching one of the greatest QBs of all time speaks for itself. now i dont think he comes in here and all of a sudden Joes throwing for 4800 yards and 40 TDs, but i do think hell bring knowledge that will improve his game immensely. Another reason would be, we now have another coach capable of calling a game. If Cam stumbles or is as stuck in his ways as hes showed to be in the past, they now can pull the plug. Not saying they would, but the threat of being able to should get the best out of Cam. Its really a win win in all facets. New blood from a successful regime will only bring good things to this offense.
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