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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach



    Quote Originally Posted by Jess View Post
    I like the move.. taking away his HC stuff, you can't argue his success as a QB Coach w/ Collins in Penn State, Johnson in TB and obviously Manning. It sure as hell can't be any worse than last year without a QB Coach..
    You know, I take guys who fail at HC with a grain of salt. Seriously, look at some of the best coordinators in the NFL and they have all been mediocre at best or complete failures as head coaches. It takes a special person to be the HC. Not everyone can do it and more often than not when you have a guy who is a QB's coach, for example, and you make them the HC you see them favor and spend a majority of their time with the QB and the offense and leave the rest of their team to their devices. Same with defensive guys who can't balance being the HC and they spend a majority of their time as the defensive guy with nothing given to the offense.

    -NY Jets, Rex Ryan, had he been more balanced he may have caught some of the bad blood in the current locker room with Sanchez, Holmes, and others. He doesn't spend any time with those guys (or very little) so he just flat out didn't know. Some of the players have even come out and said that he didn't know.

    -Dick LeBeau, no one would argue that he may be one of the greatest defensive minds ever. As a HC of Cincinnatti he was 12-33 in 3 years.

    Wade Phillips, was the HC for Buffalo and Dallas. Mediocre at best with those teams. While the DC in San Diego he had one of the premier 3-4 teams and look at what he's done in Houston in 1 season with their D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brtnder81 View Post
    so whats the connection between him and the Harbaugh family? because we all know Harbs only hires friends of the family

    He is his father's mother's sister's next door neighbor's former coach.




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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    You know, I take guys who fail at HC with a grain of salt. Seriously, look at some of the best coordinators in the NFL and they have all been mediocre at best or complete failures as head coaches.
    Cam! :P

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    only negative is that sports talk will be FLOODED with idiots clamoring for Manning now.
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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    I love this move. I said before that I'd be fine with keeping Cam if they brought in a good QB coach, and they got a good one in Caldwell. I'm sure he will be able to help Flacco out a lot.




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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    Quality response to an absolutely horrible post. Kudos for Red Foreman as well.

    This is an absolutely great hire for more than one reason. His record of coaching one of the greatest QBs of all time speaks for itself. now i dont think he comes in here and all of a sudden Joes throwing for 4800 yards and 40 TDs, but i do think hell bring knowledge that will improve his game immensely. Another reason would be, we now have another coach capable of calling a game. If Cam stumbles or is as stuck in his ways as hes showed to be in the past, they now can pull the plug. Not saying they would, but the threat of being able to should get the best out of Cam. Its really a win win in all facets. New blood from a successful regime will only bring good things to this offense.
    Agreed.

    Just knowing that Caldwell has spend 10 years watching Peyton break down film, study, and work out is going to give him a really nice variety of tools to teach Flacco. He'll watch film with Flacco and listen to Flacco's thoughts on the problems, etc and then Caldwell can chime in afterwards and go "Well, did you look at this?...this is what Peyton would have been looking at...I think you should be paying attention to this...etc"

    Just having that extra set of eyes is going to be SO important.

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA

    It's a smart move. Caldwell would also make it possible to dump Cam mid season if they felt the need to.

    edit: I see Scallywag beat me to it. Glad I'm not the only one seeing this option
    I think the offense would have to really be bad for them to nix Cam midway through the season, but I do agree that this is a smart move because if gives them a viable option just in case. Part of the problem this past season was that they didn't have anyone who had experience as a play caller and game planner. Well, now they do.
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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    Quote Originally Posted by Jess View Post
    Cam! :P
    Yea, Cam stunk as the HC in Miami.

    Spagnuolo, Sparano, Whisenhunt, Greg Williams, Childress, etc. Even at one time Belichek was a pretty lousy HC because being a defensive guy he really geared all of his attention towards the defense. However, he learned how to be a better HC and it's paid off a lot for him I'd say.
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    Dick LeBeau is the shining example. Terrible head coach, amazing DC.
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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    So the Ravens decided after the 2010 season that there were "too many" coaches telling Joe different things and they fire the QB Coach. Coincidentally, it was also Joe's best season statistically. Joe is so pissed off about it he actually raises his voice and gets a bit angry.

    So then in 2011 the QB takes a step backwards in performance and the Ravens decide that he again needs a QB coach. Just 12 months after they thought he didn't.

    I like the additional of Caldwell but this seems a bit dysfunctional. Makes me question the top level decision making when it comes to coaching staff.




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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    Quote Originally Posted by Bazooka Joe View Post
    He is his father's mother's sister's next door neighbor's former coach.
    *snarf*




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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    Seems odd, although I know it's just a QB coach... his offenses were pass happy with very limited run game. I am sure they have a plan for how he can help Joe but it just seems like an unusual fit, similar to Zorn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FHRaven View Post
    So the Ravens decided after the 2010 season that there were "too many" coaches telling Joe different things and they fire the QB Coach. Coincidentally, it was also Joe's best season statistically. Joe is so pissed off about it he actually raises his voice and gets a bit angry.

    So then in 2011 the QB takes a step backwards in performance and the Ravens decide that he again needs a QB coach. Just 12 months after they thought he didn't.

    I like the additional of Caldwell but this seems a bit dysfunctional. Makes me question the top level decision making when it comes to coaching staff.
    There definitely seems to be a little bit of head bumping going on.

    I think most of the coaching staff understands that Cam's offense isn't the most QB friendly offense and they need to be proactive about the situation.

    Cam is known to be stubborn and in the past the relationship between Cam and Joe has been strained, to say the least. Just by bringing in a guy that knows what the hell he's talking about can give Cam an extra set of eyes from the perspective of the QB and it gives Joe an extra set of eyes from the perspective of a coordinator.

    This is a good move and through all of the Cam BS this season it gives me hope that Harbaugh, Ozzie, and Bisciotti realize that they need to be more proactive about the offense.

    Next on the list (hopefully) fire Andy Moeller's ass and get a better OL coach.
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    Tweet - they are putting Caldwell in charge of timeouts.



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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    Tweet - they are putting Caldwell in charge of timeouts.



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    Re: Schefter: Caldwell to be Ravens QB coach

    Can we save the agony of 16 Cam Cameron offensive game plans right now and make him the new Offensive Coordinator.




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