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01-23-2012, 01:35 PM #25Veteran Poster
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I don't think it's an either or question. In the first and second rounds I expect the team to draft ILB/OL according to the best player available mantra. This might mean ILB first and OL second or it might be the other way around. OL, DL, LB, RB, and WR are going to be the the positions we pursue through the draft.
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Re: If the Ravens can't get Vontaze Burfict...
This team absolutely needs another pass rusher.
The Packers got to the SB last year because they had a vicious pass rush with Clay Matthews and Cullen Jenkins. They let Jenkins go and Matthews became the only pass rusher. Their defense suffered for it.
The Ravens have got to find someone who can rush the passer besides Suggs. Kruger has done a good job and maybe he can handle it, but he's still somewhat of a liability against the run and who knows how effective he'd be as an every down OLB. Kindle couldn't even make it onto the field this season. Who knows with him, though I am hopeful because the talent is there for Kindle.
The Ravens need to find a DT who can rush the passer and collapse the pocket from the inside like Redding did the 1st half of the season. Redding was a BIG reason for the defensive success this season and when he tapered off towards the end of the year, so did McPhee, so did Ngata, and so did Suggs. The problem is outside of Ngata and Suggs, no one on the DL really scares anyone. Get another guy that can rush the passer with a force and you'd see a major improvement from Suggs and Ngata.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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01-23-2012, 01:38 PM #27Veteran Poster
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Totally agree. Thinking about Burfict in purple and black is one of the only things that has gotten a smile to crack my face today.
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01-23-2012, 01:59 PM #28Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: If the Ravens can't get Vontaze Burfict...
Ellerbe was so noticeably bad yesterday ILB is def a need, I would say hightower. but best player available. Also we gotta kick up our run game and protection. our line is collapsing the middle and they get no push. Ray runs up the gut every play and if he isn't going to follow leach we need someone in the center that can hold up. i would honustly out oher back on the left with reid in at right if we dont pick up some stud LT somewhere else.
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Re: If the Ravens can't get Vontaze Burfict...
Whats misleading? The guy has committed numerous personal fouls, doesnt respect his coaches, and has a history of taking cheap shots. Those have all been shown on the field. nothing i said hasnt been said before and i didnt claim that he had any legal issues. in his case its solely on the field. I dont care if he does or doesnt like his coach, but he needs to listen to him. including when his coach asks him to come off the field instead of completely ignoring him. You want a guy that if he feels upset with the coaching staff thinks he can just ignore them? sorry but thats not a Raven. I think hes a special talent (his closing speed may be the best ive seen), and just may be a great player (if hes under control and learns to not tackle leading with his head) but i dont see the risk worthy in the first round, personally. I think youre going to have a guy that extends drives with dumb non disciplined plays. Our locker room could help him, but if he doesnt listen to coaches it certainly wont. Jimmy coming out had every bit of a first round grade, there were just questions about his character. Burfict has no character issues but certainly has issues with the way he plays. A lot of the Mock Drafts Ive seen dont even have him being drafted in the first round for this very reason. I wouldnt be completely upset if we drafted him, but id prefer using a 2nd on him than our first. If Ozzie says hes the pick than ill expect theyve done their research but from what little ive seen theres red flags around this kid and im not the first to have said/seen it.
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Re: If the Ravens can't get Vontaze Burfict...
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Re: If the Ravens can't get Vontaze Burfict...
I think you're right. This is going to be a case of the interview carrying a lot of weight. If the Ravens get a bad vibe when they speak to him they're going to take him off their board. The issues that Jimmy Smith had were all years ago. He had multiple seasons of showing that was in his past and he really changed. That's not the case with Burfict. He's very immature and throwing 1st round money at him won't help that.
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Re: If the Ravens can't get Vontaze Burfict...
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Re: If the Ravens can't get Vontaze Burfict...
so the fact that it happened this year and not the one before means he didnt do these things? It still happened and shouldnt have. its still a negative thing thats hes accountable for. as far as his tackling head first, hes always done that and its a new rule that some players are having a hard time adjusting to (james harrison, which he kind of plays like wrecklessly). If his reason stems only from "i didnt like my coach because he sat me" than i think thats a sign of immaturity but also problems with authority. I think the fact that these issues came up later instead of earlier is a sign that maybe hes actually getting worse in that aspect and not maturing. like i said, if Ozzie signs off on him, ill be on board, but i wouldnt be surprised if hes off their board entirely.
-JAB
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Re: If the Ravens can't get Vontaze Burfict...
I'm not disagreeing with you that it is a red flag and something that should be taken into consideration and you and I both know it absolutely will. My point is that this is essentially an isolated incident. There aren't exactly patterns upon patterns of misconduct here.
If he had been a shithead last year as well as this year, ok, then it becomes a major problem.
In the Ravens' locker room, I don't think it would be an issue. Give the kid a clean slate and a mentor.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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01-23-2012, 03:36 PM #36
Re: If the Ravens can't get Vontaze Burfict...
Major hypothetical here:
What if Dre Kirkpatrick slips all the way down to the bottom of the first round due to his recent positive drug test, and he is sitting there when the Ravens are on the clock? Assume Burfict, Hightower, Konz and Kirkpatrick are all there. Who do you take?
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