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    Re: Patriots D



    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    The Pats defense looks real weak in the middle secondary. Dickson should have a huge game this week.
    As long as he holds on to the ball.
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    Real football talk here, glad to see it.

    New England's coaching staff is great at making adjustments, and I would expect them to do so against the Ravens offense. There are only two problems that I see for New England's defense. If you've listened to any other radio programs or television shows, you would have forgotten that the Ravens were playing a top 3 defense in Houston. Houston has a CB in Jonathan Joseph, that could take away Torrey Smith in single coverage, while stacking the box against Rice. I am not sure that New England has the physical pieces to do that. Wilfork and Warren will bring their best, but I just do not see enough around them to believe that they could do what Houston did.

    The same way that you feel your defense is underrated, we could say the same for Joe Flacco. This has the feeling of the previous NO/SF game, where the big question was whether or not Smith could help his offense match points with NO. However, it is like the nation forgot that New Orleans doesn't have anything special on defense either.

    I also do not see how the Patriots will be able to pressure Flacco without risking the deep passes.

    On offense, this will indeed come down to the TEs. The Ravens will have to try to stop the run in their nickel packages. Then, they could put one of their bigger CBs on one of the TEs (Jimmy Smith, for example), to keep the LBs from the mismatches. However, that only takes care of one TE.

    The key will be how well Lardarius Webb covers Wes Welker. It will be a challenge for both players. If Webb can single up on Welker, the safeties can focus on the TEs. If Welker gets the best of Webb, leading to a safety focusing on Welker, the TEs will go off. They will get theirs either way, but I mean REALLY go off.
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    The Ravens are going to need to put Reed on Gronkowski period. I don't know who will cover Welker. If the Ravens fail to control these two Brady's short game with be very successful. Hernandez is now being used in many roles as well. This is not a question about one D being great so therefore they will absolutely control this or that, this I feel is more about mismatches. The ravens have awesome players at D. I feel that Reed can cover Gronckowski but who is going to cover Welker, Branch, Hernandez, or yes even Ocho ( no show lately but I think he will be the sleeper in this game). This is about matchup and as great as the Ravens are on D I don't see how they can cover everybody. Heck, they can even leave Gronckowski or Hernandez in the backfield to protect Brady....those guys are big, fast and in Gronkowkis case, freakishly strong.




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    I'm not sure anyone answered the poster who asked who the Patriots pass rushers are now that Carter is out. Their best pass rusher by far is Mark Anderson, who is having a career year (perhaps not coincidentally, a contract year).

    Next best is probably Rob Ninkovich who is a poor man's Mike Vrabel.

    This Patriots D won't make you forget the 85 Bears, but they are much better than their (deserved) reputation. The biggest positive difference between now and when they were getting absolutely scorched earlier this season are: (i) a much improved Kyle Love at DT; (ii) the return to health of Brandon Spikes (the team's best run-stuffing LB) and Patrick Chung (the team's only remotely competent true safety); and (iii) the emergence of Sterling Moore, who has gone from bagging groceries several weeks ago to what now appears (miraculously) to be an above-average NFL corner.

    Should be a good game. Best of luck to your team.




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    I agree with your assessment of the Pats D. It has been evolving for the better recently. Injured guys coming back. Stats will not be the best judge of how they play this coming week. Pats did stop Denvers running game cold which Is one of the best if not the best ( per stats anyway) in the NFL. Bellicheck has a way of making something out of nothing. As a PTs fan I was furious in the early season watching the D get torched, but they ( the D) clamped down when they needed too. Maybe that's why the stats show a much better D when you look at points allowed. I believe the Pats D is very situational they have been clamping down quite a bit at the end of games when they need to win. The stats also will not explain garg
    Babe time points which there were plenty as Tom Brady piled up the points on many teams. As you know the D on any team can " relax a bit" and allow points which can mess up the stats. Dont get me worm
    Ng.....I'm not saying the Pat D is great, I'm just saying they are better than their stats show and the last game is an example as are some of their more recent games where they gave up points early then suddenly shut down the other teams offense




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    How bad is the Patriots defense compared to the weaker defenses the Ravens faced this year:

    Rushing Yards per Attempt:
    18. Colts 4.3
    24. Patriots 4.6
    28. Rams 4.8

    Net Passing Yards per Attempts
    17. Rams 6.3
    27. Colts 7.0
    29. Patriots 7.1

    Football Outsiders ranks them as the #30 defense with the #28 rushing and #28 passing D's (Colts are 27/27/24 and Rams 20/15/29)

    They do have 40 sacks, though Andre Carter accounted for 10 of them. I know Belichick always does a good job of altering the game plan to the opponent but I was surprised to see that the Patriots have a worse defense than the Colts.




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    If we play ravens football we will win this game. We know we can't win a shootout. We just have to slow the Pats offense down, create turnovers and take advantage of these opportunities. For me the magic number is 28. If the Ravens can score 28 points I think we win this game.




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    One thing that I do like about the Ravens chances this week is that the Patriots haven't defeated a team with a winning record. (Giants/Steelers)

    It will be important for Baltimore to match the Patriots in the First Quarter and set the tone. In a close game I like the Ravens chances.




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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    The Broncos are the best run offense in the NFL? Never heard that one before.

    Pats defense did look great. They were able to confuse Tebow who had no choice but to follow the limited gameplan his team runs. The Ravens at least have some more options. There real problem is they are one of the worst run offenses in the NFL because of Cam Cameron. Hopefully the talent can overcome.
    This. I'm not worried about the o line, Flacco, Rice or the receivers. I AM worried about the coaching staff putting these guys in position to win, especially after Bilichek takes away what Cam likes to do best. Can he make in game adjustments to counter that? History says no.




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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagoravensfan View Post
    Who are the pass rushers for the Patriots? I know Andre Carter was tearing it up for awhile before getting injured. Who are the guys to look out for now?
    Mark Anderson is a decent pass rusher. He was with the Bears a few seasons ago. They also have Jermaine Cunningham and Rob Ninkovich (sp?). Cunningham came on strong last year, but hasn't had nearly the same success this season. Ninkovich is a guy they need to watch out for. IMO he's one of the more underrated linebackers in the NFL. He does a lot of things really well and he can rush the passer as a stand up OLB and a hands in the dirt DE. Obviously Jerrod Mayo and Brandon Spikes are solid inside linebackers as well.

    The Patriots' issues are all in the secondary. They got rid of Brandon Merriweather, which was smart and dumb all at the same time because they didn't have anyone who could replace him. They've had a mix-n-match unit at safety and it's really exposed them a lot in the middle of the field. Patrick Chung is a decent player, but he can't do it by himself and after an explosive rookie season cornerback Devin McCourty has come back down to earth a bit and isn't having nearly as dominant of a season as he did last year. Kyle Arrington had a bunch of INT's, but he gave up a lot of plays as well.

    Vince Wilfork is still Vince Wilfork and is a hoss, but other than him the Patriots really don't have any big DT's or DE's that are any good.

    Probably the biggest issue for the Pats was them switching schemes from the 3-4 last year to a base 4-3 this year with variances and nickel defenses. It hasn't worked well for them at all.
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    Kyle Love is a big-body DL who isn't bad. Not someone to fear, but not someone to overlook either.

    My concern is that the Pats D has just enough talent to follow a good game plan and take away what their opponent wants to do most. This means that the opponent must adjust to achieve success. This is certainly an achievable goal in theory. Lesser teams have done it. Unfortunately for us:

    (1) The Patriots defense will almost certainly have a good game plan due to good coaching, and

    (2) The Ravens offensive coordinator, Cameron Cameron, has not shown an ability to adjust his game plan. When what he wants to do is taken away, he either A) keeps trying it anyway and failing, or B) lurches so far in the opposite direction (e.g. change from run to pass 100% of the time) that we become imbalanced and easy to predict and defend against.

    Now, if we can just get a brain transplant for Cam-Cam by Sunday we'll be in good shape.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Teavo View Post
    Kyle Love is a big-body DL who isn't bad. Not someone to fear, but not someone to overlook either.

    My concern is that the Pats D has just enough talent to follow a good game plan and take away what their opponent wants to do most. This means that the opponent must adjust to achieve success. This is certainly an achievable goal in theory. Lesser teams have done it. Unfortunately for us:

    (1) The Patriots defense will almost certainly have a good game plan due to good coaching, and

    (2) The Ravens offensive coordinator, Cameron Cameron, has not shown an ability to adjust his game plan. When what he wants to do is taken away, he either A) keeps trying it anyway and failing, or B) lurches so far in the opposite direction (e.g. change from run to pass 100% of the time) that we become imbalanced and easy to predict and defend against.

    Now, if we can just get a brain transplant for Cam-Cam by Sunday we'll be in good shape.
    I agree with this 100%. Talent-wise, the Ravens have enough to easily put up 30+ points on a pretty bad defense. The big questions: Can they execute? Can they adjust?




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    Do the Patriots have any CBs that can match up with Torrey in man coverage? The Texans seemed to be able to take him away by manning up Jonathan Joseph. If the Patriots try that I'd have no problem taking several shots to Torrey to force them to commit a safety.




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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagoravensfan View Post
    Do the Patriots have any CBs that can match up with Torrey in man coverage? The Texans seemed to be able to take him away by manning up Jonathan Joseph. If the Patriots try that I'd have no problem taking several shots to Torrey to force them to commit a safety.
    Devin McCourty may be having a down year, but he's still a good corner and he's got the wheels to keep up with Torrey.

    I don't think that Kyle Arrington can hang with Torrey or Boldin though.
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    Stats don't always show an accurate picture of things. At different times during the season, the defense was decent, but mostly it was agonizing to watch.

    Put it this way - if the defense executes as they did on 1/1, Pats lose. If they execute as they did on 1/14, it's likely they'll win.

    Quote Originally Posted by chicagoravensfan View Post
    How bad is the Patriots defense compared to the weaker defenses the Ravens faced this year:

    Rushing Yards per Attempt:
    18. Colts 4.3
    24. Patriots 4.6
    28. Rams 4.8

    Net Passing Yards per Attempts
    17. Rams 6.3
    27. Colts 7.0
    29. Patriots 7.1

    Football Outsiders ranks them as the #30 defense with the #28 rushing and #28 passing D's (Colts are 27/27/24 and Rams 20/15/29)

    They do have 40 sacks, though Andre Carter accounted for 10 of them. I know Belichick always does a good job of altering the game plan to the opponent but I was surprised to see that the Patriots have a worse defense than the Colts.




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