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Re: Patriots D
That's exactly why you want a big Tight End like Dickson up the middle. Chung can't cover since his injury, but he sure can hit. McCourty does not match up with someone the size of Dickson.
Arrington has been pretty good at CB this year. I have a feeling the Pats will match him in man to man against Torrey Smith all game. The Texans did well doing the same thing with Jonathan Joseph.
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01-18-2012, 11:05 AM #38On The Practice Squad
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01-18-2012, 11:11 AM #39On The Practice Squad
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Chung has only been healthy the last game or two. He can cover better than you think, but, yes, TE's down the middle have killed the Pats all year, moreso due to LB play than anything else. Now that Spikes is back in the middle, it frees up Mayo to cover the middle. Hopefully that reduces the # of 20yd rec by the TEs up the middle.
For most of the season, excluding the Giants game, they've been able to give up chunks of yards down the middle between the 20's and still keep scoring down.
Pats will mix it up all day on D, with a mix of zone & man.
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01-18-2012, 11:15 AM #40
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01-18-2012, 11:31 AM #42
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Re: Patriots D
The pats zone coverage in the secondary. Reason, they are so slow and inexperienced at LB and DB. Playing zone without being to generate a pass rush is a bad combination. Plus, Pats haven't played many good offenses. Patriots might have the slowest Dline in football, Rice should have an easy time on stretch runs or cutbacks. Ravens should be able to do what they want on offense on the ground or air.
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01-18-2012, 11:46 AM #44
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01-18-2012, 11:48 AM #46
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I was comparing talent on the field, not how they may be (mis)managed by the coaching staff. I think Pitta could have had a much better game last week versus the Texans if the scheme was better.
I still don't see Miller as that much better than Dixon/Pitta. Yes, Dixon drops the ball, but he also has made some tough catches in traffic, and can stretch the field (Miller cannot). EDIT: Oh, and by the way, I didn't see Dixon's name on this list, but I did see Miller's: http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/l...rank=232&year=
My original point: I think the Ravens offense and the Steelers offense is comparable.Last edited by PeterB58; 01-18-2012 at 11:54 AM.
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01-18-2012, 12:04 PM #47
Re: Patriots D
Ravens have been on of the best in the NFL at shutting down Tight Ends if fantasy stats mean anything. The Pats won the last game in OT by 3 if I recall, and this is a better Ravens team in all phases. The Pats O looks good, but their defense has been streaky.
I expect the Pats D to be better than advertised, but I don't think the Pats O is gonna light up the Ravens either. The Pats were beat by a Steelers team the Ravens beat twice. Assuming the Pats D sells out to stop Ray Rice as expected, does the Pats secondary really have it in them to contain Boldin, Smith, Pitta and Dickson? Ravens receivers against Pats CBs is the best matchup for the Ravens imo. The Pats allowed 4.6 yds/carry on the ground, 8th worst in the league... and with a 25 attempts/game average so its not like teams were giving up on the run to keep up - they're going to make Rice their focus. Smith and Boldin are going to see quite a bit of one on one if the Pats fail to jump out to a big lead... and the Pats pass rush was only average before Carter went out.
Let's not forget the Ravens have been playing top-tier teams all season and won the best division in the NFL. Flacco has been facing good defensive teams. The Pats meanwhile have been running over lesser competition all season. The talk has been about how they earned the #1 seed without beating a team that finished above .500 all season. I honestly think the game will come down to turnovers, and I give the Pats the edge only because the game is in Foxborough... but the team with the best chance to go into Foxborough and win would be the Ravens imo.Last edited by DvlsAdvc8; 01-18-2012 at 12:20 PM.
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01-18-2012, 01:52 PM #48Rookie Poster
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Re: Patriots D
Agree with all this with three minor clarifications:
1. Jermaine Cunningham (who really humiliated Michael Oher last year in what was unquestionably the best game of Cunningham's career) is on IR, so he will not get a chance to test Oher again (not that Cunningham had been anything to fear this season before going on IR).
2. Kyle Love is another big-bodied DL. As another poster pointed out, he is nothing to be afraid of. But he is a pretty solid player.
3. Sterling Moore is probably their best cover CB right now. The fact that someone can come in off the street late in the season and become the best CB for a playoff team underscores the mess that has been the Patriots defensive backfield this year.
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