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    Ravens want Rice, Flacco might have to wait



    http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...75988/34404412

    The good Joe Flacco better show up on Sunday if he wants a new contract, he's on
    shaky ground right now.




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    Re: Ravens want Rice, Flacco might have to wait

    Casserly also said Birk is retiring this year. I call BS on Casserly. Flacco will be the QB for the Ravens until Flacco decides to go.Postseason for first four years and owner plus Baltimore making money, no way Steve B insults Flacco.




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    Re: Ravens want Rice, Flacco might have to wait

    Quote Originally Posted by lovefootball View Post
    Casserly also said Birk is retiring this year. I call BS on Casserly.
    So did Birk, who said he's never talked to Casserly or even knows him after Casserly said Birk was retiring.




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    Re: Ravens want Rice, Flacco might have to wait

    Quote Originally Posted by SugarRay52 View Post
    he's on shaky ground right now.
    Bullshit! Flacco will be our QB in 2012, and 2013, 2014, 2015 etc.
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  5. Re: Ravens want Rice, Flacco might have to wait

    Unfortunately for Flacco he still has another year left on his rookie contract affording the Ravens the oppportunity to address other areas in need of immediate attention.(Rice, maybe Grubbs)

    If Flacco had come out and set the league on fire then maybe his contract would be getting addressed this year.

    Flacco is being treated no different then any other player we've drafted and considered valuable enough that they want to retain them.

    This is the way the front office conducts itself and chooses to do business.

    This front office has spent virtually its entire existence trying to replace Vinny Testeverde with a player of some type of quality at that position.
    After them watching Flacco be the player at that position taking them to the playoffs four straight years I highly doubt there is any ground shaking under Flacco.
    He's just gonna have to wait his turn in line.
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    Re: Ravens want Rice, Flacco might have to wait

    This phrase is so laughable and off base it invalidates the entire article, at least the part he wrote...
    So does Flacco deserve an extension? And if so, how much? The Cardinals and Chiefs overpaid Kevin Kolb and Matt Cassel ($63 million, $20 guaranteed; and $63 million, $28 million guaranteed, respectively). That's probably Flacco's ballpark, although that seems like a lot of money to tie up in a guy who completed just 57 percent of his passes in 2011. And his 20 touchdowns and 80.9 passer rating were his lowest totals since his rookie season.
    Flacco, his agent, and Ravens front office people who could remain anonymous would laugh at a $60 million number as his "ceiling". The Ravens would never offer such an insulting contract for a QB who has accomplished so much in his first 4 years. Ever. His agent would laugh them out of the building and ask them if they were joking.

    But again, it just shows how clueless the national media is and how they perceive Flacco's value. It is just mind blowing.




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    Re: Ravens want Rice, Flacco might have to wait

    Quote Originally Posted by 52decleetzu View Post
    This phrase is so laughable and off base it invalidates the entire article, at least the part he wrote...


    Flacco, his agent, and Ravens front office people who could remain anonymous would laugh at a $60 million number as his "ceiling". The Ravens would never offer such an insulting contract for a QB who has accomplished so much in his first 4 years. Ever. His agent would laugh them out of the building and ask them if they were joking.

    But again, it just shows how clueless the national media is and how they perceive Flacco's value. It is just mind blowing.
    You can't be serious? Put Rex Grossman on this team, it'll still go to playoff every year.




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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fanatic View Post
    He's just gonna have to wait his turn in line.
    He will have to wait, but likely only until July or August. Rice, Grubbs and others are the priority for Feb and March. After that, they have often re-signed their core players once the summer arrives and the free agent period and draft are over.
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    Re: Ravens want Rice, Flacco might have to wait

    Quote Originally Posted by SugarRay52 View Post
    http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...75988/34404412

    The good Joe Flacco better show up on Sunday if he wants a new contract, he's on
    shaky ground right now.


    Irrespective of what happens Sunday in the Patriots game, Joe will have his big money, long term contract in hand BEFORE he takes the first snap of the 2012 season. The Ravens are not going to do anything to jeopardize the relationship they have with Joe - the ONLY quarterback in NFL history to win 49 games in his first four years - a winning percentage of over 67% (PS - a better winning percentage EVEN if he loses Sunday's game than John Unitas achieved in EITHER his first four years - or over the entire length of his 17 year career - including championship and playoff games).

    This kid is a winner and will be even better when Cam goes.

    Either this guy (Casserly) is reading Preston or vice versa - either way they're both idiots.
    Last edited by rharris1986; 01-16-2012 at 09:00 PM.




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    Re: Ravens want Rice, Flacco might have to wait

    Joe better get it together on Sunday.




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    Re: Ravens want Rice, Flacco might have to wait

    Joe's gonna have to pay out his contract. We cant play him and Ray Rice.

    He will be resigned, just not after this season. That said, if he wins a Super bowl, it will put extra pressure on the Ravens to make an offer.
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    Re: Ravens want Rice, Flacco might have to wait

    Quote Originally Posted by BleedPurple92 View Post
    Joe's gonna have to pay out his contract. We cant play him and Ray Rice.

    He will be resigned, just not after this season. That said, if he wins a Super bowl, it will put extra pressure on the Ravens to make an offer.
    They can pay both of them. In fact, signing Flacco to a long-term deal will likely reduce his 2012 Cap number.

    I doubt they let him play out his contract. If they did and couldn't re-sign him in time, they'd have to franchise him and the franchise number for a QB is prohibitive.
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    Re: Ravens want Rice, Flacco might have to wait

    Quote Originally Posted by B-more Ravor View Post
    They can pay both of them. In fact, signing Flacco to a long-term deal will likely reduce his 2012 Cap number.

    I doubt they let him play out his contract. If they did and couldn't re-sign him in time, they'd have to franchise him and the franchise number for a QB is prohibitive.
    They could always get Flacco done during the season. Other teams do that, sometimes even with big contracts. That's what the Bills did with Fitzpatrick.
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    Re: Ravens want Rice, Flacco might have to wait

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    They could always get Flacco done during the season. Other teams do that, sometimes even with big contracts. That's what the Bills did with Fitzpatrick.
    I hope it doesn't come to that. Both sides have equal leverage over the summer. Once the season starts - and Joe has to be subjected to the possibility of injury before his big payday - then a lot of players (and AGENTS!) figure why not roll the dice and hit free agency?

    The franchise number is just too big to mess around with like that, IMO.

    Plus, with Fitzpatrick - whose contract looks like a pretty big mistake right now - there was an unknown quantity to him, where he sort of came out of nowhere to play so well (and the Bills may have been foolish to buy). With Flacco, this moment has been coming for 3 years now. It's time.
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    Re: Ravens want Rice, Flacco might have to wait

    Quote Originally Posted by B-more Ravor View Post
    I hope it doesn't come to that. Both sides have equal leverage over the summer. Once the season starts - and Joe has to be subjected to the possibility of injury before his big payday - then a lot of players (and AGENTS!) figure why not roll the dice and hit free agency?

    The franchise number is just too big to mess around with like that, IMO.

    Plus, with Fitzpatrick - whose contract looks like a pretty big mistake right now - there was an unknown quantity to him, where he sort of came out of nowhere to play so well (and the Bills may have been foolish to buy). With Flacco, this moment has been coming for 3 years now. It's time.
    Let me ask you a question. First of all this is all based on if Flacco has another ho-hum Flacco outing in the AFC Championship. It's very likely. If he rolls up a ton of offense on the Patriots it could all change. I think this game is that important for Flacco.

    Suppose the Ravens going into 2012 have Ray Rice locked up for what should be at least three years at the level he's at now. Basically one of the best.

    The question I think that people honestly need to ask themselves is how many more games do you think they could win with one or the other. Rice is an NFL superstar. Flacco is not. A decent veteran free agent QB could play at Flacco's current level if he doesn't like playing out his rookie deal deciding he'll become a FA. The Ravens could survive. There aren't a lot players like Ray Rice. There are a lot of quarterbacks like Flacco.




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