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  1. #31
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    Re: Come on season ticket holders, do NOT sell your seats to brokers



    Back in week one, we made the trip to Baltimore with relative ease, having no problem finding a decent priced hotel. And that was Steelers week.
    Hotels and flights are not comparable. Most Steeler fans that come to our stadium live here. Most from Pittsburgh would travel via car. Almost none spend the night. I never have going to Pittsburgh.

    A large number of Texans buying the tickets via brokers is a relative thing. We mashed those numbers earlier and on the one site between 800-900 Texans were buying from that major site, and that was being generous with the numbers. And of course, two of those tickets might have been you.

    Even at 3500 they wouldn't make a difference. I will stick at 2000.




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    Re: Come on season ticket holders, do NOT sell your seats to brokers

    I think to have any noticeable presence in the stadium there would have to be at least 10% and that would be 7000. There is no way 7000 Houston fans show. Anyway, I like have the occasional opposition fan close by. It makes it more fun.

    People can do whatever they want with their tickets. Its a shame if PSL owners can't afford them and need to sell them. To be such a committed fan and finally get a home playoff game and not be able to go would suck. I know a couple people who have PSLs and aren't going. One is a huge fan who is just choosing to watch it on t.v. and not pay the money for the tickets and the other really just uses his tickets for business.

    I would be cleaning gutters if thats what it took to scrape up $500 it costs for my 2 seats for the two games.








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    Re: Come on season ticket holders, do NOT sell your seats to brokers

    Now that I think about this, it's logistically impossible for "thousands" of Texans fans to fly up here for the game, and the drive is 1400 miles, so they sure as hell aren't driving here..

    There aren't that many Texans fans in this area either. At the game in week 6, I think i saw 3 of them and I'm being serious.

    I think that smarmy broker was just being an asswipe because he was on TV. Probably trying to get Ravens fans to call in and buy the big stack of tickets he can't unload.




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    Re: Come on season ticket holders, do NOT sell your seats to brokers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenboy2003 View Post
    Now that I think about this, it's logistically impossible for "thousands" of Texans fans to fly up here
    Huh?

    Cities all over the word host events consisting of tens of thousands of folks and have no issue getting people to and from. Why is it impossible for this event?
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    Re: Come on season ticket holders, do NOT sell your seats to brokers

    Think Super Bowl. Usually it is fans from two different cities flying in. Plus there are 3 large airports, BWI, Reagan, Dulles all in the area.




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    Re: Come on season ticket holders, do NOT sell your seats to brokers

    i would pay anymoney to go see that game if i lived near by, i would not give up a seat. Considered flying over from the UK if we had the steelers




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    Re: Come on season ticket holders, do NOT sell your seats to brokers

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I'm starting to think there may be slightly more Texans fans than people think.

    Watching the news here and there are a TON of folks making the trip.
    I have no idea how many are going. I've been hearing from a lot of DC area Texans fans, a lot of east coast fans who can drive to the game, many tailgate, message board fans going.

    We have been waiting for a long time. Given the history of Ravens QBs, you can understand the pain we felt paying to watch David Carr play from 2002-2006.

    I was surprised how little very good tickets cost relatively speaking. If you amortize it over your lifetime as a Houston football fan, it is very cheap. Or compared to what good Rockets/Astros playoff tickets cost back in the day when the they were any good.




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    Re: Come on season ticket holders, do NOT sell your seats to brokers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenboy2003 View Post
    Now that I think about this, it's logistically impossible for "thousands" of Texans fans to fly up here for the game, and the drive is 1400 miles, so they sure as hell aren't driving here..

    There aren't that many Texans fans in this area either. At the game in week 6, I think i saw 3 of them and I'm being serious.

    I think that smarmy broker was just being an asswipe because he was on TV. Probably trying to get Ravens fans to call in and buy the big stack of tickets he can't unload.
    I know of some folks who are driving.

    Start/leave times are being staged to get to the various DC area airports.

    Continental Tuesday discount fares made the air tickets more reasonable.

    Know San Antonio, Austin, South Texas, West Texas folks flying in too. Some Dallas folks, or folks that are driving to Dallas to get cheaper fares to fly in.

    If I was going to guess, I would say 3000-6000 fans. But that would be a total wild ass guess because this is our first road playoff game.




  9. #39

    Re: Come on season ticket holders, do NOT sell your seats to brokers

    I think you are over reacting. I never have or never will sell my seats, but I would be surprised if there were more than a thousand or so Texan fans who got their tickets from the broker. It wil not matter as they will be overwhelmed by the Raven fans. I understand that some have to sell their seats to pay for a possible AFC championship game or next years seats.
    No need to worry about Ravens fans. We will be LOUD on Sunday.




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    Re: Come on season ticket holders, do NOT sell your seats to brokers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens825 View Post
    My ex-boss has 4 psl and season ticket plans. He would buy the maximum amount of extra tickets he was allowed for every home game. He then sold the extra tickets on ebay for a profit and usually made enough money to pay for his own personal tickets for the year. The big name games always brought a premium price.
    That's what happens everywhere. Fans try to justify re-sales to say it is how they finance their season tickets. Ultimately, if you resell your tickets to the highest bidder without ensuring they are going to the home fanbase, you are a garbage fan.

    That being said, I am very very happy a garbage Ravens fan re-sold the ticket I received.




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    Re: Come on season ticket holders, do NOT sell your seats to brokers

    I am by nature a capitalist so I do not criticize using the market for profit. It may irritate me if there are other fans in the seats, but "Greed is good".

    Besides, I have a guy in front of me who has several tickets and uses the extra to pay for his. A couple of years ago there were Steelers' fans in his seats and he took a lot of incoming in the next game. He swore that he sold the tickets to a guy that he knew was a Ravens fan, but the guy then flipped them for a profit. Unless you limit your market, there is no way to control the selling rules. I buy to take family and sell to family or my Tailgate group. If the ticket owners do not limit the enemy interlopers, then so be it. If the Ravens conduct a beat-down then thousands of crying fans are no big deal. The number of the enemy is only relevant if the Ravens let them be relevant.
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    Re: Come on season ticket holders, do NOT sell your seats to brokers

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Offense View Post
    I am by nature a capitalist so I do not criticize using the market for profit. It may irritate me if there are other fans in the seats, but "Greed is good".

    Besides, I have a guy in front of me who has several tickets and uses the extra to pay for his. A couple of years ago there were Steelers' fans in his seats and he took a lot of incoming in the next game. He swore that he sold the tickets to a guy that he knew was a Ravens fan, but the guy then flipped them for a profit. Unless you limit your market, there is no way to control the selling rules. I buy to take family and sell to family or my Tailgate group. If the ticket owners do not limit the enemy interlopers, then so be it. If the Ravens conduct a beat-down then thousands of crying fans are no big deal. The number of the enemy is only relevant if the Ravens let them be relevant.
    I'm great with capitalism. But people who sell their tickets to the highest bidder without even trying to make sure they go to home fans are great capitalists....and garbage fans. That's the truth.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Texans_Chick View Post
    I'm great with capitalism. But people who sell their tickets to the highest bidder without even trying to make sure they go to home fans are great capitalists....and garbage fans. That's the truth.
    And thus, you're not what you say.

    So if I have a widget that's in high demand and it has a strong emotional attachment to many people, other folks and their emotions trump my right to make a buck or two?
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    Re: Come on season ticket holders, do NOT sell your seats to brokers

    Highly doubt any of us will even notice a contingent of Texans fans aside from the few that will be in your individual section. As has been said time and again, there is really never a significant group of any visiting fans, Steelers included. News stories in Houston feature one family going to the game does not mean there are plane loads coming here. The playoffs are new for the Texans so the fact that maybe a handful of people are making the trip will make the news, unlike here where thats pretty much standard procedure that our fans travel.

    I can't believe there is even a thought that this would happen and I would be completely shocked if there is a sizable contingent of red and blue.




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