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    Re: That "elderly" Ravens defense



    It was Hou announcer A Ware. I would hardly call him a reporter. Didn't he get like a 7 on the wonderlic?




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    Re: That "elderly" Ravens defense

    Houston's defense (at least the starters) is much younger than the Ravens.

    The Ravens do not have a starter younger than 26 (Webb and McClain), and they have four that are 30 or older (Lewis, Reed, Johnson and Redding).

    Houston by comparison has five starters 25 or younger (Reed, Watt, Barwin, Quin and Cushing) and only one starter that is 30 and none older.

    When you factor in some of the role players (Jimmy Smith, McPhee, etc.), I am sure the average age of the Ravens defense comes down, some.

    Whether this age difference is going to be a factor either way (youth vs. experience) is debatable. But to claim that the Ravens have a "young" defense - as compared to Houston's - just isn't supported by the facts.




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    Re: That "elderly" Ravens defense

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterB58 View Post
    Houston's defense (at least the starters) is much younger than the Ravens.

    The Ravens do not have a starter younger than 26 (Webb and McClain), and they have four that are 30 or older (Lewis, Reed, Johnson and Redding).

    Houston by comparison has five starters 25 or younger (Reed, Watt, Barwin, Quin and Cushing) and only one starter that is 30 and none older.

    When you factor in some of the role players (Jimmy Smith, McPhee, etc.), I am sure the average age of the Ravens defense comes down, some.

    Whether this age difference is going to be a factor either way (youth vs. experience) is debatable. But to claim that the Ravens have a "young" defense - as compared to Houston's - just isn't supported by the facts.
    Yea, when you compare them to Houston's defense there is certainly an age differential.

    This "elderly defense/old defense" statement has been going on for two seasons, when it's really not that true at all. The Ravens have a nice mix of youth and experience, but there are a lot of young guys on the D. Pollard, Ngata, Suggs, Kruger, McPhee, Cody, Jones, Jimmy, Cary, Webb, McClain, and Ellerbe are all still pretty young.

    Now, not all of them start, but to dismiss their contribution is incorrect IMO.
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    Re: That "elderly" Ravens defense

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Now, not all of them start, but to dismiss their contribution is incorrect IMO.
    Personally, I am not dismissing the contributions of the younger, non-starters, but you have to agree that starters are going to contribute more than non-starters.

    And like I said, whether youth is better served than experience is debatable. Would you rather have the 23 year-old Suggs or the 29 year-old Suggs? I will take the latter.




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    Re: That "elderly" Ravens defense

    Quote Originally Posted by AntiMoon View Post
    It was Hou announcer A Ware. I would hardly call him a reporter. Didn't he get like a 7 on the wonderlic?
    Wow . . . that is so true . . . . I'd forgotten about that dismal display of intellect.




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    Re: That "elderly" Ravens defense

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    The are way too many in the media that do as little research as possible. Remember that when you hear that Brady Quinn might start for the Broncos or whatever the hot news story of the week is.
    Demaryius Thomas gave an interview on SiriusNFL Radio and confirmed Quinn took reps with the 1st team in preparation for the Steelers.
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    Mike (the fat one that does commercials about losing weight) has held onto the narrative (for that last 3 years) that the Ravens defense is "long in the tooth". He won't come off that line until Ray and/or Ed retire or play for another team.
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    Re: That "elderly" Ravens defense

    Quote Originally Posted by SC_Raven_Fan View Post
    Demaryius Thomas gave an interview on SiriusNFL Radio and confirmed Quinn took reps with the 1st team in preparation for the Steelers.
    Well, either he exaggerated or the media blew it out of proportion, or Phil Simms underplayed it significantly because prior to the game Simms said he was at the offensive practice that week and he saw Quinn take about 5 snaps with the 1st team offense.

    Kind of interesting how so many different stories kind of conflict.
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    Re: That "elderly" Ravens defense

    i read somewhere that the 2000 team was ,by avg age,the oldest in the nfl that year...i know its nature to assume it wasnt,w a younger ray,cmac,etc...and the team speed was incredible,but look it up.

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    Re: That "elderly" Ravens defense

    The perception that the Ravens defense is old is because we have been consistently good for such a long time. They see Ray Lewis and instantly think about the 2000 Ravens great defense. I think we've been so good defensively for so long that unless you know this team well it's easy to think of this defense as old and miss all the new faces we actually have.




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    Re: That "elderly" Ravens defense

    Quote Originally Posted by scottie b View Post
    i read somewhere that the 2000 team was ,by avg age,the oldest in the nfl that year...i know its nature to assume it wasnt,w a younger ray,cmac,etc...and the team speed was incredible,but look it up.
    Woodson was 35, 3 of the 4 defensive lineman were 30 or over. The key to the "team speed" was you had a young back 7: Ray the LBers were 25, 26 and 26. McAlister was 23 and Stuarks was 26.




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    Re: That "elderly" Ravens defense

    Quote Originally Posted by SC_Raven_Fan View Post
    Demaryius Thomas gave an interview on SiriusNFL Radio and confirmed Quinn took reps with the 1st team in preparation for the Steelers.
    According to John Fox, Quinn takes snaps with the first team every Friday and has done so the entire year. Fox said nothing changed for that game except for the huge number of reporters covering it.
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    Re: That "elderly" Ravens defense

    We are a mix of wise players mix with young talent. Thats why the ravens defense has the advantage in the playoffs.




  14. #29

    Re: That "elderly" Ravens defense

    Have to see what talking heads have to say after Sunday, eventually the Ravens defense will get old and then the talking heads will jump up and down proclaiming they knew what they were talking about. Personally, the talking heads should compare our old guys against the old steeler team who lost saturday. That would be something to do a comparision with. Steelers guys dropping like flies against the Broncos. Maybe they will do a special about the old Ravens going to the SB and winning.




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    Re: That "elderly" Ravens defense

    I heard the same interview this morning and dismissed it when it got to that point... as others have mentioned people think Reed and Lewis whenever they talk about our defense like no one else makes plays...




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